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Old 07-10-2009 | 05:46 PM
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I'm not sure if this has been discussed yet in other forums, but I would like to get the take on what may happen to Republic's codeshare agreements with Delta/ United/ US Airways now that they are a Direct competitor via Midwest and Frontier.
I know there are provisions in most regional contracts where if you have a base with one carrier ie united you cannot have the same base for a competitor ie Delta for example... Other than that I have no idea... Any insight???
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Old 07-10-2009 | 07:03 PM
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Old 07-10-2009 | 07:28 PM
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Who Cares.
I do! Considering this matter has a direct influence on my job and quality of life.
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Old 07-10-2009 | 09:39 PM
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To answer part of your question, republic has multiple crew bases that fly for multiple code shares. Its always been that way. Regarding the direct competition, no one really knows. You can bet all the code share partners knew about this midwest/frontier thing beforehand. Maybe there were agreements, maybe there weren't. Consideing delta nearly owned midwest, im sure they are just fine with what happened. Midwest/Frontier don't really compete with US Air. So the only real question mark is United. Guess we'll see what happens there.
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Old 07-11-2009 | 04:47 AM
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I think the Frontier acquisition is much more important. There are a couple of huge questions here. Is United actually happy with the move because they could be funding a huge undercutting of Southwest out of DEN? Are they happy because the buying of Frontier is just worth its weight in gate space?

Or did RAH buy Frontier to hold the gate space issue over United's head?
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or is buying frontier a hedge if united files chapter 7? Also does united have a chance at doing anything about RAH owning Frontier? What would they do? Drop all the Shuttle America and Chautauqua flights from their schedules. They couldnt handle the cancled flights or the PR mess afterwards.
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or is buying frontier a hedge if united files chapter 7? Also does united have a chance at doing anything about RAH owning Frontier? What would they do? Drop all the Shuttle America and Chautauqua flights from their schedules. They couldnt handle the cancled flights or the PR mess afterwards.
They wouldn't cancel the flights, there are numerous regionals who could step in and fly those routes without so much as a hickup. XJT and SKW come to mind, possibly ASA and I'm sure if United gave AWAC a few months notice they could do it as well.

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Originally Posted by 250 or point 65
I think the Frontier acquisition is much more important. There are a couple of huge questions here. Is United actually happy with the move because they could be funding a huge undercutting of Southwest out of DEN? Are they happy because the buying of Frontier is just worth its weight in gate space?

Or did RAH buy Frontier to hold the gate space issue over United's head?
United owns all of Frontier's gate space anyway...Mute point...
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United owns all of Frontier's gate space anyway...Mute point...
Really?..........
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Old 07-11-2009 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BarbieTrash
I'm not sure if this has been discussed yet in other forums, but I would like to get the take on what may happen to Republic's codeshare agreements with Delta/ United/ US Airways now that they are a Direct competitor via Midwest and Frontier.
I know there are provisions in most regional contracts where if you have a base with one carrier ie united you cannot have the same base for a competitor ie Delta for example... Other than that I have no idea... Any insight???
I'd have to read the contracts between the companies but I can't see how the current makeup of RAH (holdings) doesn't create a breach of contract somewhere. I've heard (union reps) Delta flying was already at risk in the future anyway so I'm sure this won't help.
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