Careful what you wish for...once the Feds get their hands in this, I see it becoming extremely difficult for commuters and those in base wanting more than 75 hours...there may be no legal way to fly more come this fall. Hell no am I writing a letter.

 

That is no joking matter, and sadly very, very true :sad:

 

The idea isn't to fly more.... it's to fly less, yet get paid the same or better for it.

 

This is why ALPA pushed for an ARC with ALPA members to write the NPRM.

Seven ALPA Pilots Chosen for FAA ARC

The FAA is undertaking a comprehensive review of flight-time and duty-time (FT/DT) regulations to better reflect current research on sleep, rest periods, and alertness. The next phase of the process in updating FT/DT rules is to convene an Aviation Rulemaking Committee (ARC), a group made up of representatives from labor, industry, and the FAA, who will draft the proposed changes. Seven ALPA pilots have been selected to participate in this endeavor. ALPA’s executive administrator, Capt. Don Wykoff, will co-chair the ARC. Other pilots who will serve include Capt. Bill Soer (FDX), Capt. Darrel Cox (MSA), Capt. Greg Whiting (UAL), and Capt. Michael Hynes (CAL). Capt. Matt Rettig (EGL) and Capt. Peter Davis (ASA) will act as alternates.

These gentlemen will be crucial in helping other ARC participants understand the practical applications of the rules and the pilot perspective.
ALPA has long been a proponent of updating FT/DT regulations to better reflect the existing science. In a recent statement, ALPA president Capt. John Prater said, “Considering that the pilot flight-time and rest rules in use today were created more than 60 years ago, it becomes immediately clear that we need a swift and innovative approach to modernizing these standards.”
http://public.alpa.org/portals/alpa/...0090717.htm#03

 

Absolutely, I'm certainly with you there! But to be real, that ain't gonna happen. This will be a paycut, folks...

And somebody please enlighten me as to why 60-year old rules are all of a sudden dangerous? Seems to me that flying has only gotten lightyears easier since then...Just because it's not new doesn't mean it's broken.

 

When were these 60 year old half ass, thrown together regs safe if scheduling holds you only to the minimum required by law.

 

Glad to see the U get involved. Only thing that was missing was Higgins speaking on the alpa fatigue studies.

 

My take on this is that in order for these rules to be valid they would have had to do some studies on flight crews and how fatigue affected them. If the studies are 60 years old then they obviously didn't have the same environment that we experience now. Somehow I think these limitations were set knowing that they would never even get close to those kinds of duty limits. I could be wrong but I don't think the average pilot had 5-6 leg days 60 years ago. Another thing I could be wrong about is the kind of weather they would fly in. I would think that 60 years ago there were probably many times when a flight couldn't dispatch due to low visibility. Now a days we fly things to some pretty low minimums and a few times a day might I add. Does anyone have a similar take on this?

 

Seeing Dana and Doc Jensen speak made me feel like i am back in there class rooms

 

Are you a little slow?