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Diver Driver 07-24-2009 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by dashtrash300 (Post 650218)
Jobs that pay similar to more than a regional airline pilot:
(Source careerbuilder.com)

Amusement and recreation attendants: $18,220
Cafeteria, food concession and coffee-shop counter attendants: $17,820
Cashiers: $18,360
Combined food preparation and serving workers, including fast food: $16,700
Dishwashers: $17,060
Fast-food cooks: $16,860
Maids: $19,550
Parking Lot Attendants: $19,320
Shampooers: $17,490
Gaming Dealers: $18,120
Laundry and Dry-Cleaning Workers: $19,570

Jeez... how do I become a Parking Lot Attendant? Is there a school for that?

UND_Sioux 07-24-2009 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by dashtrash300 (Post 650218)
Jobs that pay similar to more than a regional airline pilot:
(Source careerbuilder.com)

Amusement and recreation attendants: $18,220
Cafeteria, food concession and coffee-shop counter attendants: $17,820
Cashiers: $18,360
Combined food preparation and serving workers, including fast food: $16,700
Dishwashers: $17,060
Fast-food cooks: $16,860
Maids: $19,550
Parking Lot Attendants: $19,320
Shampooers: $17,490
Gaming Dealers: $18,120
Laundry and Dry-Cleaning Workers: $19,570

The problem is supply and demand. There is almost an unlimited supply of unskilled, uneducated people in this country that have no choice but to take a job in the above list. The same problem goes for pilots. As long as there are more pilots that would rather fly an RJ for crap wages than fly a C172 as a flight instructor for crap wages, then you will see crap wages. The only way this will change is a shortage of pilots, stronger unions, or the government stepping in.

Flyby1206 07-24-2009 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by UND_Sioux (Post 650252)
The problem is supply and demand. There is almost an unlimited supply of unskilled, uneducated people in this country that have no choice but to take a job in the above list. The same problem goes for pilots. As long as there are more pilots that would rather fly an RJ for crap wages than fly a C172 as a flight instructor for crap wages, then you will see crap wages. The only way this will change is a shortage of pilots, stronger unions, or the government stepping in.

I see the government as our best bet. Go to the Call To Action link on the alpa main page. and fill out the form, it takes 5 mins and sends letters to your senators. Just click and done.

essw 07-24-2009 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 650317)
I see the government as our best bet.

Baahhaahha!

ExperimentalAB 07-24-2009 12:01 PM

The Government IS NOT GOING TO HELP US. They will help the great number of their constituents who want the world for $99 r/t. Don't be fooled.

ExperimentalAB 07-24-2009 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by Diver Driver (Post 650228)
Jeez... how do I become a Parking Lot Attendant? Is there a school for that?

The best part is, there IS NO $100K school you need!!

VanDriver208 07-24-2009 12:17 PM

Last year I made so little I was eligible for food stamps...this year doesn't look much better.

VanDriver208 07-24-2009 12:23 PM

The truth is that we all chose this profession. The days of the $250K per year with 20 days off per month airline pilot are gone. For the most part however, we all like what it is we do. I'm sure most of us wanted to be pilots since we were children. Management knows this, so they can exploit us and treat us poorly because there is a line of guy out the door who are itching for a chance to "live the dream" and are willing to do it for less. At the end of the day I am happy with the profession I chose. Nobody ever said "I want to work at McDonald's when I grow up!"

Mason32 07-24-2009 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by Shootinstr8 (Post 650196)
And don't forget The Janitor swinging the mop makes about $18,000 and we get paid the above amounts. Kind of SAD when professional pilots are paid less than janitors and some Major airline first year FOs are paid just $3000-$10,000 more for their skills and levels of responsabilities

Just food for thought

Might want to show thise numbers during section 6 talks

Compare second year pay at that fast food joint and at any of those airlines.... then compare 5 and 10 year pay at the same places.....

and FYI, Doctors don't make crap their first two years eaither typically....
even later, by the time they are done paying the costs of running an office with staff, they aren't making what they used to anymore either.
A typical Orthopod in the Boston area, if he/she still practices surgery, is paying around 250k per year just for the malpractice insurance.... then factor in the costs of their office, their secretary, in office nurse, their insurance and benefits, taxes and other associated overhead and while it may be true the Doctor brings in a ton of money a year, most of it goes right back out in related costs. For instance a family member of mine once told me, he LOST $5 dollars per patient on office visits. He billed out a small profit, and the insurance companies always paid less than what what billed resulting in the small loss. The office visits paid for everything except him...(office staff, office, related costs) and doing Cast Clinincs and Surgery is what let him recover the small office loss and put left over money in his pocket. He lived well, but nowhere near what people would expect when you told them he took in close to 800k per year.

jeforte 07-24-2009 12:35 PM

can a day go by without anybody on here complaining. whine whine whine whine whine my ice cream is too cold whine whine whine whine. sniff....


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