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atpcliff 07-27-2009 03:30 PM

Hi!

The Seattle Times:
"...Rep. Jerry Costello, chairman of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee's aviation subcommittee, told a hearing Thursday he's fed up with waiting for the Federal Aviation Administration and the airline industry to act on safety recommendations. He said he will try to force action through legislation.
"I do not believe we can rely on airlines to voluntarily comply with industry best practices," the Illinois Democrat said.
...
"It's one thing to fly one eight-hour leg from here to Paris. It's another thing to fly seven hours and make 14 stops and never leave the state of Florida, and I have done that," Babbitt (the new FAA Administrator) said."

cliff
NBO

seafeye 07-27-2009 05:13 PM


John Prater, president of the Air Line Pilots Association, said "pilot pushing" — using threats of discipline, including firing, to prevent pilots from rejecting a flight because they are fatigued — is a problem at major carriers as well as regionals, although it is more common at smaller airlines. He said he would "name names" at the Monday meeting.
James May, president of the Air Transport Association, which represents many large airlines, if Prater "has any specific evidence of pilot pushing by air carriers, that ought to be put on the table."
Morgan said Colgan doesn't punish pilots who say they are too fatigued to fly, and neither do most other airlines.
"I don't believe it's anywhere near the level he seem to imply," Morgan said.
And James May has his head up J.O.'s ass, all he can see is crap!

B317 07-27-2009 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Shootinstr8 (Post 651543)
Not quite sure how you meant that I hope the price is not as high as the passengers in buffalo, or maybe Lexington. It always seems like everyone is quick to point out how it will effect their wallet not the lives of the folks you are supposed to be safely flying...once again maybe I read that wrong and you meant safety first

I personally welcome better rest rules, I don't try to maximize days off, I'm able to bid 2 & 3 day trips with good rest. However, most pilots try and bid for the most days off they can get, and I was trying to point out that shorter duty days and more rest well equal less days off. I will bet most pilots are not going to like that.

utedrummer 07-27-2009 07:22 PM

Just my opinion here: I dont mind the occasional loooong day (16 hrs is extreme), what fatigues me most however is 8 hrs from gate to gate. Nothing like 12 hrs duty followed by one hour to get checked in, one hour to get dinner and wind down, 5 hours of sleep, one hour to get ready for the van time (no time for a good breakfast here, besides its 4 am, where am I gonna eat at this hour??) and another 12 hour duty day again today to make me the most tired. MIN 10 hours BEHIND THE DOOR is what I need to be safe!

atpcliff 07-29-2009 03:09 AM

Hi!

Congress to toughen airline standards (Airline Safety and Pilot Training Improvement Act of 2009) - USATODAY.com

• "Require that all airline pilots obtain an Airline Transport Pilot license, which is currently only needed by captains. Pilots must have a minimum of 1,500 flight hours to obtain the license....

cliff
NBO


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