That's why the data would be compared with other operations and be accounting for the number of operations etc... This would come down on airlines and require them to do better training, pilots should support this.

Also I don't understand why airline pilots are having any issue with requirement to have an Airline Transport Pilot certificate to fly for an airline.

 

One of the major problems with this bill is that it is a direct slap in the face to pilots who are fresh out of training and tens of thousands of dollars in debt. I am a 700 hour pilot and have been CFIing for 2 years (CFI @ 150). At present rate I would have to keep instructing another 2 years AT BEST to get an ATP and get a job, that is 5-6 years of my life, including training, that would be dedicated to time building all for a job that pays just enough to support myself heaven forbid I wish to pay off any debt or start a family. And I am on backside of the curve, not the front side.

True, it has before and still takes a few thousand hours to get on somewhere, but the possibility of getting in low time is what a lot of people are bidding.

Granted this is on my situation, I don't expect to go anywhere soon and if I stick with this I am ready to put in the time to get the hours. However, I am also currently applying to the Navy so hopefully will end up taking that route.

Collectively aviation in the U.S. has always been regarded as the one of the safest in the world, I have no idea why one crash (which inevitably will happen) is grounds for changing what has worked for so long. Talk about fixing a problem that doesn't exist, way to go reactive government.

 

I wouldn't be too concerned. There are many flying jobs that aren't CFI'ing and aren't 121. Take Ameriflight, for instance. When the airlines start hiring again there's going to be a lot of people moving out of those jobs to the airlines. Airlines that can't find enough pilots will likely have to increase pay to convince more to come over. So all those night cargo, on-demand charter, banner towing, etc jobs will be looking for pilots with hours like yours to keep flying. I think this will help everyone even though you'll have to work at other places beyond the airlines first.

 

WOW. I thought it was the front side of the curve, as you put it, people that had the "I want it now" entitlement syndrome. No offense Gen "Y"ers. I'm sorry, but a lot of people in this industry weren't even able to get airline jobs with 1500 hrs. Times are much different than 4-5 years ago, and the 250 hr airline pilot is a thing of the past. GOOD RIDDENS!! Your whinning isn't going to get much sympathy. Go fly 135 for a while and you will eventually appreciate what you've learned from that valuable experience, cause it may save your life some day.

Regards,

PtP; Living life one slap in the face at a time.

 

You consider it a slap in the face that the mins are now written by the FAA on what used to be the absolute hiring mins. Granted, there was a few yrs were the requirements got way to low and those hired during that boom time were very, very lucky and most of them don't even realize it.

You must be a part time CFIer. In 2 yrs I was I had done almost 1000hrs of dual given and bought block time in a twin and that was when instructing was worse than it is now...the early 90s. Maybe you need to move to where the work is. That is what I did. If you not willing to move, then don't complain.

 

+1 PTP

I had 1900TT before I even got my first job flying single engine piston cargo planes. I'm sorry for those that can't buy their way into the cockpit anymore.

 

I think all the pilots except the 250hr wonders instructed/flew freight/ towed banners, etc.....for more than 2 years. So with that said and the position you are currently at, would you like it if all your hard work was for nothing in the eyes of Human Resources? Cause it would be since they were just looking for warm bodies(read a wet com. multi.) and of course you have more experience than the others with 700tt.

 

I had over 2500 hours when I got hired at a commuter. Took about 4 years of CFI work and night freight/135 work. My myopic view is "Why is this an issue?"

 

Wow what a sad post. You think you are the only one out there that has had to instruct several years before getting the airline job? I instructed for 4 years and 1400 hours before I got my first job. It took me a total of 6 years to get my first regional job from the time I started school. All the while I had a family and I was paying off my student loans. And that was just 5 years ago before the big hiring boom. Even pinnacle is requiring 1000 total and 200 multi to even get looked at now. Times are changing and I am glad they are. If you really want the job you will work hard to earn it. If you are a guy who feels entitled to the job and you want it now and not after you earn it then you wont last when you get here anyway.

 

Sorry to tell you this but this is a very tough industry. I am amazed at your feelings of entitlement, in this business that won't get you very far. The people that are willing to work hard and put in the effort are successful in aviation. Having a minimum level of experience in order to fly passengers safely isn't too much to ask.......