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ToiletDuck 08-02-2009 07:58 AM
Originally Posted by king10pin02 (Post 654882)
they are flying and will be till January or so. the Midex certificate is going away when the last boeing is parked. the midex crews cannot touch the 190s till they are on the RAH seniority list, I imagine that will be awhile.
RAH isn't going to keep the Midwest certificate? When/where did they say that?

944Turbo 08-02-2009 08:06 AM
I'm truly impressed with the class and respect shown by the RAH pilot group. :rolleyes: Unfortunate.

king10pin02 08-02-2009 08:38 AM
Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 654917)
RAH isn't going to keep the Midwest certificate? When/where did they say that?
Town hall pod cast. 190s will be on rw certificate and yx operating certificate will go away. Brand name stays, just the operating cert goes.

b82rez 08-02-2009 09:32 AM
That seems like a great way to get the YX guys to expidite the seniority integration.

After the Midwest pilots fall in line he'll most likely change his mind and decide to keep the certificate.

meyers9163 08-02-2009 10:18 AM
Originally Posted by king10pin02 (Post 654882)
they are flying and will be till January or so. the Midex certificate is going away when the last boeing is parked. the midex crews cannot touch the 190s till they are on the RAH seniority list, I imagine that will be awhile.
Thats ok. Make it last a while. Then when they get the arbitration won, via ALPA (a real union unlike yours), they will get back pay and make BB hurt where it counts. And then all your whiney E175 guys can sit back and enjoy DOH winning out and being forced well down on a seniority list. I hope the Midex guys stick it out just to make and educate some of the RAH pilots on how things work. Thus getting a pay rate for a plane, work rules, and mostly how seniority will win out and they will be placed before most of you fools.

I surely hope, most RAH pilots dont have your attitude about things. Because its sad and very unfortunate to the industry as a whole.

320ToBearz 08-02-2009 11:47 AM
Originally Posted by king10pin02 (Post 654882)
they are flying and will be till January or so. the Midex certificate is going away when the last boeing is parked. the midex crews cannot touch the 190s till they are on the RAH seniority list, I imagine that will be awhile.
you sound happy about this little fact. glad to see you lowering the bar.

320ToBearz 08-02-2009 11:49 AM
Originally Posted by b82rez (Post 654965)
That seems like a great way to get the YX guys to expidite the seniority integration.

After the Midwest pilots fall in line he'll most likely change his mind and decide to keep the certificate.
I hope not. 300 have been sacrificed, whats another 100 more? In the glee to get rid of Midwest, RAH loses their payrates for that certificate as leverage in bargaining, but they can then fly a 190 for $37/hr. Whopee!

king10pin02 08-02-2009 12:25 PM
Originally Posted by 320ToBearz (Post 655008)
you sound happy about this little fact. glad to see you lowering the bar.
I don't see how you can determine my "happiness" when all I was doing was answering a question with factual information. Sadly for the current yx guys the longer it takes to intergrate the worse off they will be. I agree our union is lacking, but once the intergration is done ALPA will be a nonfactor as all current yx guys will eventually be teamsters. I speak for myself only and not the entire rah list, but I am hoping for doh with the yx guys fenced into Mke.

320ToBearz 08-02-2009 12:28 PM
Originally Posted by king10pin02 (Post 655018)
I don't see how you can determine my "happiness" when all I was doing was answering a question with factual information. Sadly for the current yx guys the longer it takes to intergrate the worse off they will be. I agree our union is lacking, but once the intergration is done ALPA will be a nonfactor as all current yx guys will eventually be teamsters. I speak for myself only and not the entire rah list, but I am hoping for doh with the yx guys fenced into Mke.
your "factual" last statement I quoted was an opinion.

RAHPilot5 08-02-2009 01:13 PM
Originally Posted by 944Turbo (Post 654920)
I'm truly impressed with the class and respect shown by the RAH pilot group. :rolleyes: Unfortunate.
and I say the same to the so called Midwest pilots on here.


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