Freedom421

Every checkride failure requires a sign off in your log book. Every interview i have been on required me to bring my log books. The only reason a airline would not have your checkride failures is because they choose not to look at your log book. After flight school PRIA records take care of your training events which they have access to. This is a blame game. These companies knew what they were doing. It's company culture, some companies have great training departments and some don't. This is a company problem that they are blaming on the employee.

So should they have never been in the flight deck to begin with? yes

Is it you companies Job to put competent crews in the flight deck? yes

I say this is Colgan's company culture at fault.

Sonny Crockett

Maybe so....

I hear that Colgan has hired some new people into the Training Department, and their backgrounds far exceed anything Colgan has seen to date. Hopefully good things will all come out of this for all concerned.

Dougdrvr

I've never had the "company" put anything in my logbook for 25 years, but then neither have I.

Airsupport

lol, they are all pinnacle guys moving to colgan.

Freedom421

You are missing the point. PRIA records give new companies access to your training record which are not put in your log book.

FAA checkride (private, Instrument, commercial) results get purged after 90 days. But the sign offs are in the back of your log book.

now they want access to records they can already get during the interview via your log book.

Rightseat Ballast

The Captain pulled the power to idle (or just above idle) in level flight, while adding drag, and never added power back in until entering the stall. He bled off over 70 knots in level flight. He never lowered the aircraft angle of attack to break the stall.

That is not corporate culture. That is poor airmanship. I am not a remarkable pilot myself, but in this case I feel even I can call this for what it is. I don't enjoy putting blame on a fellow aviator, but there is no way around it here.

Colgan has some serious culture issues. Pay is poor, scheduling is the worst I've experienced, and there is always pressure to push things a little too far. But, airspeed is airspeed. A stall is a stall. This pilot should have known how to recover from a stall in a straight wing airplane. That basic skill should have been instinct since he was a student pilot.

BoilerUP

What RB said...

crazyjaydawg

Agreed, the company culture may not be up to par and I hate to point the finger at a fellow aviator (especially one that can't argue his reasoning) but the facts are facts.

Mesabah

The compensation package is to blame. Crap wages bring in crap employees, this is a fact. There are exceptions though.

TonyWilliams

That is not true.