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-   -   Pinnacles MEC passes the TA (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/regional/43167-pinnacles-mec-passes-ta.html)

HIREME 08-22-2009 07:37 AM
It needs roughly 650 votes to pass...
I figure at least 350 fo's will vote yes just for some more jack
Throw in at least 100-150 of the most senior guys voting yes to get significant pay increases
that leaves about 400 more pilots to vote, while only needing 150 of them to vote yes...close, but it seems like we will once again have a less than average contract that splits our meager bonus payment into. yeah...

John Pennekamp 08-22-2009 07:39 AM
WOW!

If the TA couldn't pass the MEC unanimously, that really should say something about it. I hope you all read carefully and study your peers' contracts (on airlinepilotcentral.com) before you vote.

You all now have the choice of accepting a substandard TA in hope you'll steal more flying, or shooting it down and demanding what your worth. Good luck.

HIREME 08-22-2009 07:54 AM
Originally Posted by John Pennekamp (Post 666494)
WOW!

If the TA couldn't pass the MEC unanimously, that really should say something about it. I hope you all read carefully and study your peers' contracts (on airlinepilotcentral.com) before you vote.

You all now have the choice of accepting a substandard TA in hope you'll steal more flying, or shooting it down and demanding what your worth. Good luck.
unfortunately, many people here think it will take years to get to this point again if we vote it down...that's why I put up the other thread about Comair voting theirs down...anyone know how long after that it took them to be released?

B00sted 08-22-2009 08:09 AM
Originally Posted by HIREME (Post 666504)
unfortunately, many people here think it will take years to get to this point again if we vote it down...that's why I put up the other thread about Comair voting theirs down...anyone know how long after that it took them to be released?
Yep. Too many are concerned with having a few extra dollars NOW because, "I won't be here in 5 years". Glad to see they can predict the future.

Hopefully we can educate some people during the road shows.

The trend will continue. Simply the best but le$$ than average

flyprdu 08-22-2009 08:12 AM
At NetJets, within 90 days of voting down their first TA, they...

... had a new MEC, and a new TA.

Don't let the let them try to scare you.

John Pennekamp 08-22-2009 08:12 AM
Originally Posted by HIREME (Post 666504)
unfortunately, many people here think it will take years to get to this point again if we vote it down...that's why I put up the other thread about Comair voting theirs down...anyone know how long after that it took them to be released?
It's usually that way. management wants it to pass for obvious reasons, and the union wants it to pass because ALPA threatened to pull the plug on their negotiations after 5+ years (happened to us too). So everyone used fear tactics to get it to pass.

I predict it passes by 60% or more but you'll never find anyone who admits they voted for it.

mooney 08-22-2009 08:17 AM
Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 666486)
nope. to quote a wise captain from our boards "this TA will pass with high numbers, and after the vote you wont be able to find one person who voted yes"
hey I said that once thanks for the compliment :D

StrikeTime 08-22-2009 08:19 AM
Originally Posted by mooney (Post 666453)
remember guys...don't read the new TA. Only vote no becasue that is what you are supposed to do no matter how good. Or only vote yes because you are sick of no raise at all for 5 years. But whatever you do, don't use your own brain and make an informed decision based on facts.....base your vote on rumor and the cool thing to do at the time.
LMAO Oh man that is too funny.... Be careful some people might actually take your suggestion.

weaseljet 08-22-2009 08:55 AM
Uh, we're going to what?

aviatorpr 08-22-2009 09:30 AM
Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 666486)
nope. to quote a wise captain from our boards "this TA will pass with high numbers, and after the vote you wont be able to find one person who voted yes"
so true. I'm thinking about getting lanyards made with "I voted YES" or "....NO" be a man and stand by your decision.


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