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Originally Posted by Trogdor
(Post 673785)
Right, Lakes isn't being undercut, we didn't re-bid on the cities.
Lakes only rebid two cities through Kansas City hub, they dropped the rest Before the United States Department of Transportation Washington, DC August 17, 2009 Essential Air Service at BURLINGTON, IOWA Docket OST-2001-8731 FORT LEONARD WOOD, MISSOURI Docket OST-1996-1167 under 49 U.S.C. 41731 et.seq. This document contains the response of Great Lakes Aviation, Ltd. to Order Requesting Proposals 2009-7-9 Great Lakes Aviation, Ltd. is pleased to submit these proposals to provide essential air transportation at these points in Iowa and Missouri. In accordance with the instructions in the order to provide a "final and only" proposal, Great Lakes has provided a description of the proposed service to each of these Essential Air Service points. Great Lakes will provide service at these Essential Air Service points in a similar fashion as is currently offered and utilize our interline agreements with select major carriers that enable connecting bag service through the hub. In addition, we have code-sharing arrangements with United Airlines and Frontier Airlines. As connecting schedules and frequencies allow and when practical, we will be offering the benefits of of the code-share agreements. All proposals contemplate the use of 19 seat Beechcraft 1900D airliner equipment. Questions and comments may be referred to: Michael O. Matthews Chief Financial Officer Great Lakes Aviation, Ltd. 1022 Airport Parkway Cheyenne, WY 82001 (307) 432-7000 Table of Contents: Subsidy Passengers Average Proposal Service Point(s) Hub(s) Served Round Trips Equipment Requirement Forecast Fare Part 1 Burlington Kansas City 3 1900D $1,997,602 7,000 $98.72 2 Fort Leonard Wood Kansas City or Saint Louis 3 1900D $1,292,906 12,750 $107.02 at Great Lakes discretion Great Lakes Aviation, Ltd. Annual Compensation Requirements for Essential Air Service at Burlington, Iowa (at 98 percent completion) Departures: 1,840 Block Hours: 1,840 Revenue Passenger Miles: 1,519,000 Available Seat Miles: 7,586,320 Operating Revenues: Passenger: BRL 7,000 psgrs at $98.72 $691,040 Other: (at 0.62% of passenger revenue) $4,284 Total Operating Revenues: $695,324 Operating Expenses: Direct: Aircraft and Hull Insurance $335,757 Fuel and Oil $792,021 Flying Operations $298,393 Maintenance $485,282 Total Direct Expenses: $1,911,453 Total Indirect Expenses: $653,239 Total Operating Expenses: $2,564,692 Operating Loss ($1,869,368) Profit Element (5.0% of Total Operating Expenses) $128,235 Annual Compensation Requirement: $1,997,602 Bid assumes current schedule would serve as a representative schedule Great Lakes Aviation, Ltd. Annual Compensation Requirements for Essential Air Service at Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri (at 98 percent completion) Departures: 1,840 Block Hours: 1,564 Revenue Passenger Miles: 2,244,000 Available Seat Miles: 615,960 Operating Revenues: Passenger: TBN 12,750 psgrs at $107.02 $1,364,505 Other: (at 0.62% of passenger revenue) $8,460 Total Operating Revenues: $1,372,965 Operating Expenses: Direct: Aircraft and Hull Insurance $335,757 Fuel and Oil $746,264 Flying Operations $253,634 Maintenance $450,004 Total Direct Expenses: $1,785,659 Total Indirect Expenses: $753,266 Total Operating Expenses: $2,538,925 Operating Loss ($1,165,960) Profit Element (5.0% of Total Operating Expenses) $126,946 Annual Compensation Requirement: $1,292,906 Bid assumes current schedule would serve as a representative schedule |
Originally Posted by TPROP4ever
(Post 673242)
Please dont make assumptions without doing the research.
(PS, I know quite a bit about EAS bidding. I also know quite a bit about Lakes having worked there. Please don't make assumptions without doing the research.) |
what shocks me is how ZK didn't bid any of these markets into ORD... i mean, that was the company's largest ops in the 90s. I remember when we used up all of F1 - F5 (well, most of F1 - there was a section blocked off for the United Freight & Mail folks).
No one bidding has an actual codeshare that will be useful. Gulfstream can't get CO to agree to use their code in STL, CapeAir has the same issues, and the one codeshare that gives them *some* flexibility doesn't fly to STL. This is going to be an independent run-down to see who can build traffic the best, and like AVS said, Caterpillar, ADM, and Tate & Lyle are not using the Decatur Airport. I fly into Bloomington on AirTran when I can and drive down... its a shame that I just can't get a good connection back home to DEC. |
Originally Posted by travelnate
(Post 674099)
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No one bidding has an actual codeshare that will be useful. Gulfstream can't get CO to agree to use their code in STL. |
... as American continues to emulate USAirways in Pittsburgh.
Wait, I think USAirways has more mainline flights in PIT than AA does in STL.... |
Originally Posted by travelnate
(Post 674196)
... as American continues to emulate USAirways in Pittsburgh.
Wait, I think USAirways has more mainline flights in PIT than AA does in STL.... Damn that is a close call.:eek: |
either way, it's just depressing as hell.
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Originally Posted by John Pennekamp
(Post 673992)
What fun would the internet be, then?
(PS, I know quite a bit about EAS bidding. I also know quite a bit about Lakes having worked there. Please don't make assumptions without doing the research.) |
Driving time from:
Quincy, IL - STL: 2 hours and 20 minutes Decatur, IL - STL: 2 hours and 20 minutes Cape Girardeau, MO - STL: 2 hours and 20 minutes Marion, IL - STL: 2 hours and 10 minutes Talk about pointless to have airline service to/from these places, especially to an airport as worthless as STL. How many millions of dollars is the taxpayer spending on this crap? The simple answer is "too much." There is nothing essential about this air service. |
yeah, and up here in DEC it's 1 hr or less to 3 other airports with RJ service to ORD, DTW, ATL, MSP, DFW.
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