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Originally Posted by higney85
(Post 678168)
It's all good- I feel much better after posting the con list. It's internet therapy.
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Originally Posted by HIREME
(Post 678312)
lol...I'd feel better if we can get an acceptable contract before the end of this decade.
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Wow. That's a HORRIBLE TA. 75% DH pay? Horrible. 100% at XJET on a 2004 contract! 11 & 10 days off? Horrible. I got 12 & 11 at XJET on a 2004 contract. Percentage pay raises STINK! Per Diem STINKS!
This TA is industry average of 4+ years ago! Definite NO vote. What a joke. Management continues to spit in the faces of 9E pilots. :mad: |
Originally Posted by dondk
(Post 678409)
Good luck with that. Rumor is the signing bonus/retro pay is slanted to the top 20% of the pilot group. I hope it is just a rumor, if not, which side is the union leadership on?
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Why are you including Mesaba on the list to determine your payrates? I thought their FOs are paid a blended rate for the Saabs and RJs?
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Originally Posted by Inconceivable
(Post 677880)
Determined by "industry average" with a MAX 3% increase and a min 1% increase each year. So it's not lowering the bar, it's nailing it in place. :-(
50 Seat FO 23.11 32.15 35.06 36.83 37.84 38.69 39.47 40.05 76 Seat FO 25.73 34.48 36.81 38.33 39.30 40.26 41.25 42.03 42.06 42.08 |
Originally Posted by higney85
(Post 678427)
It's not a rumor.
Heads will roll over this. |
Originally Posted by challenger
(Post 678505)
I wonder how long before the recall is started
the W-2 method for the retro/signing bonus vote was: ATL CA Rep - In Favor DTW CA Rep - In Favor MEM CA Rep - no vote, being recalled MSP CA Rep - In Favor ATL FO Rep - Opposed DTW FO Rep - Opposed MEM FO Rep - In Favor (not a FO, but a Captain and on the NC) MSP FO Rep - Opposed W-2 is supposedly the basis. Amendable date -> July 31,2009 earnings. When I heard this, I puked to be honest. All the APD's, ACP, management pilots, check airman in the sim and most union officials make a killing. You know the same guys who haven't flown the line since '05. :eek: |
Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
(Post 678475)
Tell PNCL you deserved these rates 5yrs ago. Now it's time to get some modern ones.
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Originally Posted by dondk
(Post 678511)
Recall who? Replace with what? I agree a recall is in order, the politics is the problem.
the W-2 method for the retro/signing bonus vote was: ATL CA Rep - In Favor DTW CA Rep - In Favor MEM CA Rep - no vote, being recalled MSP CA Rep - In Favor ATL FO Rep - Opposed DTW FO Rep - Opposed MEM FO Rep - In Favor (not a FO, but a Captain and on the NC) MSP FO Rep - Opposed W-2 is supposedly the basis. Amendable date -> July 31,2009 earnings. When I heard this, I puked to be honest. All the APD's, ACP, management pilots, check airman in the sim and most union officials make a killing. You know the same guys who haven't flown the line since '05. :eek: The MEC knew they had the votes to pass. I had a much higher view of them when i was there before all of this came out. They are about equal with managment when it comes to greed ( or a way to buy the vote) |
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