Per Diem
06-14-2006, 05:28 AM
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Per Diem
Per Diem is compensation for living on the road. The money is supposed to offset expenses. Some pilots wish to consider it as pay, and add it to their base wage in order to inflate their perceived income. One recently bragged about how he only spent $20 over a three day trip on food. Per Diem is not pay. Why not eat top ramen for the next three days and pay yourself the savings over living like a real human. If you are willing to count it as pay then perhaps you should subtract for crash pads, airport cars, student loans, and for the opportunity cost of what you could be doing in life.
Per Diem is not pay. Even the government does not consider it as such.
SKyHigh
Per Diem is not pay. Even the government does not consider it as such.
SKyHigh
06-14-2006, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
Per Diem is compensation for living on the road. The money is supposed to offset expenses. Some pilots wish to consider it as pay, and add it to their base wage in order to inflate their perceived income. One recently bragged about how he only spent $20 over a three day trip on food. Per Diem is not pay. Why not eat top ramen for the next three days and pay yourself the savings over living like a real human. If you are willing to count it as pay then perhaps you should subtract for crash pads, airport cars, student loans, and for the opportunity cost of what you could be doing in life.
Per Diem is not pay. Even the government does not consider it as such.
SKyHigh
Per Diem is not pay. Even the government does not consider it as such.
SKyHigh
True, true... So what? I spend more money on the road than I receive in perdiem because I like to eat well. Other pilots spend as little as possible because they prefer to spend their money on other things, again, SO WHAT? It's a free country isn't it?
Personally, I think it's sad that an airline pilot would be forced to exist on ramen, etc, but the ones doing so are doing so of their own free will.
SkyBolt
06-14-2006, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by skybolt
True, true... So what? I spend more money on the road than I receive in perdiem because I like to eat well. Other pilots spend as little as possible because they prefer to spend their money on other things, again, SO WHAT? It's a free country isn't it?
Personally, I think it's sad that an airline pilot would be forced to exist on ramen, etc, but the ones doing so are doing so of their own free will.
SkyBolt
Personally, I think it's sad that an airline pilot would be forced to exist on ramen, etc, but the ones doing so are doing so of their own free will.
SkyBolt
I totally agree with you Bolt. Who cares what they do with the money it will get spent somehow. My point is that it isn't pay and shouldn't be considered as such. It is a false way to inflate ones stated income.
Skyhigh
06-14-2006, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
I totally agree with you Bolt. Who cares what they do with the money it will get spent somehow. My point is that it isn't pay and shouldn't be considered as such. It is a false way to inflate ones stated income.
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06-14-2006, 08:38 AM
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Nutritional Summary for Soup, ramen noodle, beef flavor, dehydrated, dry:
Ramen Noodles Nutritional Value
I just hope you guys can justify your Class 1 medicals with that salt intake!
Ramen Noodles Nutritional Value
I just hope you guys can justify your Class 1 medicals with that salt intake!
06-14-2006, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by surreal1221
In the military, such things as per diem BAH, BAS, etc, are not taxed. Is per diem taxable in these situations? Or does it vary from airline to airline?
If your rest period occurs anywhere but your domicile (base) it is not taxable. If your rest period is in domicile, it is subjet to tax. If you start a 4 day trip at 12 pm monday and duty off 12 pm thursday, thats 72 hours of non-taxable perdiem.
On another note, the sad part is that for a new hire FO at (insert any regional airline here) per diem counts as a pretty good chunk on your pay check. For a single person, no dependents, 300 hrs a month perdiem equates to just under a third of take home pay.
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