HA! This was posted on another thread! Looks like a loophole will allow ERAU students and the like to still reach the flight deck with 300 hours...

The Subcommittee on Aviation under the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee will be hearing testimony tomorrow at 10:00 am. They will be streaming it live. Just click on the Yellow Box with Blue writing that says "View Web Cast" located on the left side of the screen. The web site is Transportation and Infrastructure Committee (hxxp://transportation.house.gov/).

The committee will be hearing testimony about the FAAs "Call to Action on Airline Safety and Pilot Training." H.R. 3371 (the "ATP required" to fly 121 bill) will come up as representatives from the University Aviation Association (UAA) and Aviation Accreditation Board International (AABI) will be giving testimony. The theme "Quality over Quantity" is what they are pushing.

The UAA and AABI are in favor of H.R. 3371 except for the part requiring an ATP to fly 121. They would like the bill to be amended which would allow pilots that graduate from an accredited AABI flight program be eligible for hire into a 121 operator.

Listed below is what they would like to see put into the legislation:

Insert on page 33, line 11:

(3) ACCREDITED UNIVERSITY GRADUATES.—

(A) FLIGHT CREW MEMBERS FROM ACCREDITED UNIVERSITIES.—Not withstanding paragraph (2), flight crew members from accredited universities shall be permitted to—

(i) complete the flight time requirements of the airline transport pilot certificate required in subparagraph (B) during air carrier employment; and

(ii) achieve the 23 years-old age limit during air carrier employment.

(B) AIRLINE TRANSPORT PILOT CERTIFICATE PRACTICAL EXAMINATION REQUIREMENT.--After having fulfilled the flight time requirements of the airline transport pilot license, flight crew members from accredited universities shall undergo and pass the airline transport pilot certificate practical examination administered by appropriately designated FAA personnel.

(C) FLIGHT CREW MEMBERS FROM ACCREDITED UNIVERSITIES DEFINED.—In this subsection, the term “flight crew members from accredited universities” means flight crew members who have--

(i) completed the commercial pilot certificate and multi-engine pilot ratings, the instrument rating, and the certified flight instructor certificate;

(ii) completed the airline transport pilot certificate knowledge requirements including the airline transport pilot certificate written examination; and

(iii) graduated from a university or college flight education program accredited by the Aviation Accreditation Board International or graduated from a university or college flight education program that meets the Aviation Accreditation Board International flight education criteria. The Aviation Accreditation Board International and University Aviation Association shall jointly determine the means by which compliance with Aviation Accreditation Board International flight education criteria is demonstrated.


This web site is a PDF version of the Bill H.R. 3371 as it stands now hxxp://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3371ih.t xt.pdf. This website is the Government Printing Office (GPO).

So I ask, what the #### is the point of this bill if it still allows 300 hour pilots fly around in the 121/135 enviornment?? :confused: Well played lobyists!

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I agree with FreightPuppy, this whole thing is just sickening.

BSO... First, thank you for recognizing that you don't know what you don't know. You have proven that you are self aware, and this is a valuable quality in an aviator. Personally, I wish you the best. But, I submit that you, and many like you, have absolutely no business sitting over there in the right seat of a Part 121 flight operation. By that I mean, getting that experience, as you described. This is not the place for it. If you are not legally, physically, mentally ready to be the PIC of a flight, then you shouldn't be in any seat, period. The sim and then the right seat of and airframe is the place to get accustomed with a particular airframe, and only after the requisite basic experience is well established.

I have long contended that a required crewmember on a Part 121 flight should hold a valid ATP, and a PIC type rating for the aircraft being flown. It's like the scope clause in a contract, it is the most basic of building blocks. Without it you have nothing else. For those that get it, no explanation is necessary, for those that don't, no explanation is possible.

Sabre