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Old 09-21-2009 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I hear it sounds like a gunshot when they go....
I hope that I never hear that. I always think about that British pilot who got sucked out his window. Gives me the creeps.
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Old 09-21-2009 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
The other layers would be at the PIC's discretion on continuing the flight. I hear it sounds like a gunshot when they go....

It does... Makes ya jump right out of your damn skin...
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Old 09-21-2009 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
It depends on which pane delaminated. If it was the inner, you need to get on the ground as soon as possible b/c the structural integrity comes from that layer.

The other layers would be at the PIC's discretion on continuing the flight. I hear it sounds like a gunshot when they go....
It does indeed get your attention - I was flying from ORD to RDU in a 737 back in the day and the Capt/s side popped. I smelled the ozone and heard the arcing of the window heaters shorting (delamination caused a void space between electrodes) and it went opaque within seconds. It was Cat. II at destiation so we ended up flying all the way back to ORD to get a new plane.

I've never seen a Capt. get his seat position that low, and seat belt so tight as I did with that guy
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Old 09-21-2009 | 09:06 AM
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At Comair it's PIC's discretion. We ask how bad it is and give our (Mx Control) opinion, but the divert decision is up to the Captain.
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Old 09-21-2009 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by hslightnin
isnt it always on the FO's side?
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seriously, that's how it is with us.
That's because the new windshield goes in the left side for xx hours, it is then removed and reinstalled in the right side while a new one goes in the left. side...


(Kidding)
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Old 09-21-2009 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by IrishTiger
I hope that I never hear that. I always think about that British pilot who got sucked out his window. Gives me the creeps.
That was BA 111, below is some narrative from the report. The Capt, who was blue upon landing, survived.


"The accident happened when the aircraft was climbing through 17,300 feet on departure from Birmingham International Airport en route for Malaga, Spain. The left windscreen, which had been replaced prior to the flight, was blown out under effects of the cabin pressure when it overcame the retention of the securing bolts,84 of which, out of a total of 90, were of smaller than specified diameter. The commander was sucked halfway out of the windscreen aperture and was restrained by cabin crew whilst the co-pilot flew the aircraft to a safe landing at Southampton Airport."
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Old 09-21-2009 | 06:45 PM
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I actually listened to the situation on delta radio. From what it sounded like it seemed pretty bad. I might note that "if" a crack formed associated with window anti ice, that would imply that you can't go into icing conditions. The southeast has had every sort of weather the last couple of days and I'm sure that played into their decision.
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Old 09-21-2009 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by wannabepilot
Wever said that the crack was on a side window on the first officer's side of the airplane's cockpit. She did not know how the crack occurred
So was it a windshield or was it really one of the side/dv windows? I don't remember any guidance whatsoever on cracks in the side windows on the ERJ but maybe it's there is some for the CRJ
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Old 09-22-2009 | 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Copperhed51
So was it a windshield or was it really one of the side/dv windows? I don't remember any guidance whatsoever on cracks in the side windows on the ERJ but maybe it's there is some for the CRJ
FO's side window, center pain. Arplane ferried back to cvg later that day
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Old 09-22-2009 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
Perhaps they could have flown below 13,000 feet and still taken the passengers to their destination? I don't know what the flight manual says in this instance. I'm just arm chair quarterbacking the pilots.
Do you really think they'd have the fuel to fly 1/2 the flight at 13K or below........and stay legal?
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