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Old 09-29-2009 | 11:35 AM
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Thats the big question. How do you know that QOL you have for the first 5-7 years wont be the same as 7-15yrs? If you told me I only had to work at Mesa for 5 years, then I would be guaranteed to be put on any mainline carrier seniority list I would love that. If you told me I had to work at Mesa for 15 years then get put at the mainline carrier then I wouldnt be so sure...
Remember there will be two to three furloughs in there too that will have you go back to the bottom of the next sweat shop. And forty years later you are still trying to make mainline and then life ends! How about that?
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Old 09-29-2009 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
...I would be guaranteed to...
There are no guarantees; not in this career or in any others.

How important should the first five to seven year's QOL concerns be for the aspiring young airline pilot looking for their first 121 job?
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Old 09-29-2009 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by WEACLRS
There are no guarantees; not in this career or in any others.

How important should the first five to seven year's QOL concerns be for the aspiring young airline pilot looking for their first 121 job?
I agree, and think QOL should be a huge factor and very important in deciding where to go. We have all put a lot of training into this career, and shouldnt put up with anything less in hopes of a future payoff. Go somewhere you can have a good QOL, you might be there longer than you think.
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Old 09-29-2009 | 12:17 PM
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I dont think your estimates in regards to xjt are true. The furloughed pilots all had just under or slightly over 1 yr of seniority not the 2 you stated. If you were hired in late 2006 you would be a lineholder in ewr but on reserve in cle or iah.

It is all a gamble. Knowing what i know now this whole regional game is the biggest circle jerk i have ever seen. As soon as one airline gets a good contract and work rules they are underbid. As soon as the underbidders get a good contract then THEY are underbid. Which regional is better? they all suck and our career is circling the drain until the flying is brought back to mainline. Regionals getting bigger might mean great things for your upgrade or your paycheck now but it is ruining your long term career.
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Old 09-29-2009 | 12:20 PM
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Haven't you people read "Fate Is the Hunter"???

Ernie Gann has gone over this TIME and TIME and TIME again...

(and get off my lawn, too)
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Old 09-29-2009 | 01:25 PM
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Who is John Gualt?
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Old 09-29-2009 | 03:15 PM
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Back in 02 I interviewed at ACA (Atlantic Coast Airlines) which was one of the hottest things that year. Many were getting hired into the CRJ. They also had the J41 and the DOjet. I also interviewed at colgan. Colgan hired me right away but I passed on the first colgan class date waiting to hear from ACA. I got the thanks but no thanks letter 3 weeks later. I took the next class at colgan. At that moment in time ACA was clearly the better airline. High stock price, UAL feeder which at the time was better than USAir feeder. Jets.

ACA did me an incredible favor by shooting me down. They were furloughing within months of my interview and were completely gone a few years later.
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Old 09-29-2009 | 06:52 PM
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If I had to do it again i'd go the military route...
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Old 09-29-2009 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by elcidflyer04
Who is John Gualt?

nice try its Gault
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Old 09-29-2009 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SilkBra
Back in 02 I interviewed at ACA (Atlantic Coast Airlines) which was one of the hottest things that year. Many were getting hired into the CRJ. They also had the J41 and the DOjet. I also interviewed at colgan. Colgan hired me right away but I passed on the first colgan class date waiting to hear from ACA. I got the thanks but no thanks letter 3 weeks later. I took the next class at colgan. At that moment in time ACA was clearly the better airline. High stock price, UAL feeder which at the time was better than USAir feeder. Jets.

ACA did me an incredible favor by shooting me down. They were furloughing within months of my interview and were completely gone a few years later.
that sounds like comair lol
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