Sounds to me like somebody needs to start an off-shore hosted & administered server for US-based pilot forums. Forums are clearly the best way for us to stay in touch and discuss our options but case law (ie UAL) has made it all but impossible to do so. I would argue this is a case where civil disobedience has merit, but the records need to stay offshore for it to work.

Ah my friend, I think it's already been talked about. The sad thing is that we could only get what... maybe 5% of all active pilots to read, let alone participate?

I find that trying to reach out to the Mesa pilots is very difficult. Either they are too lazy to become informed, or they just don't care.

Best of luck to the OP. I agree with his statements, and I think he should be allowed to post that here. If we don't start standing up for OUR RIGHT of free speech, we will lose it. Our bill of rights is slowly starting to become meaningless.

Believe me, you know how vocal I am, this has potential to really come back and haunt certain individuals. Refer to UAL a few years back and you will see what I mean.

There is a reason I don't really post on here anymore, other than the fact that I can't get my SAABaroowski name back and the fact that nobody wants to hear my tangents anymore :)

The fourm misses you. Your like the Muammar Gaddafi of the fourm. (In a funny way not theating)

And like the above mention person/gov't - if a few simple rules were followed, he (Gaddafi) might be welcomed into the civilized world community :) If Gaddafi can not follow the rules....well........ :( (especially when playing in someone's PRIVATE backyard)

USMCFLYR

Not trying to start trouble. Maybe I should have used someone else as a example, mybad.

I do wish we could speak more freely on here.

I guess the response would be get your own forum.

hmmmmm, I believe I followed the rules...........(when I did'nt I served my time) then one day poooof I can log in as SAABaroowksi, but cant view the forums??????

Either way no problem my blood pressure has been lower since visiting this place on a "reduced" schedule, haha

You could exchange PMs or personal e-mails until the cows come home if you like and discuss anything till all are blue in the face.

I'm sure that you did start your own forum, had hopes that it might come to represent a top industry forum, and laid down some basic ground rules to help acheive that goal - but then some came onto your forum and couldn't follow those rules - well.......what would be your response?

I'll tell you this. If I had children who wanted to invite their friends to come over to my house and play in the yard - they would either follow my house rules or they would be asked to leave and not come back.
It seems some others have different ideas.

No one here is getting in trouble poor pilot (so far ;))

USMCFLYR

Back the topic.....before (and if) this thread is closed down because it may/may not be an inappropriate topic for public forum discussion - - - can someone explain to me exactly what OPEN TIME is?
Is this equivalent of an instructor being unable to fly and then I pick up his flight or a pilot working *overtime* when there are pilots furloughed?

Open Time= Unassigned flying, there could be multiple reasons why flying is unassigned