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Trip7 10-27-2009 05:41 AM
Originally Posted by todd1200 (Post 701593)
a. Captains and first officers may displace:
(1) The most junior pilot in the same category in the
system, or, if unavailable, then;
Here's where it may come down to interpretation. What does unavailable mean?

Is unavailable when the most junior displaced 200 pilot can move down to G.a.(2) because he is the most junior pilot and therefore it is unavailable or:

Is unavailable created for a situation where ASA completely gets rid of an aircraft category therefore making it "unavailable"

John Pennekamp 10-27-2009 05:50 AM
Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 701826)
I'll look more closely at the contract when I get home but someone from FI explained it to me this way:
Oh, well if it was on FI, then it MUST be true!

John Pennekamp 10-27-2009 05:53 AM
Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 701839)
Here's where it may come down to interpretation. What does unavailable mean?

Is unavailable when the most junior displaced 200 pilot can move down to G.a.(2) because he is the most junior pilot and therefore it is unavailable or:

Is unavailable created for a situation where ASA completely gets rid of an aircraft category therefore making it "unavailable"
Unavailable means the position no longer exists, such as when the ATRs were retired.

Trip7 10-27-2009 06:04 AM
Originally Posted by John Pennekamp (Post 701849)
Unavailable means the position no longer exists, such as when the ATRs were retired.
So if the contract is interpreted correctly, a displaced 200 FO cannot displace a 700 FO in our current situation. Only a displaced 200 Capt can displace a 700 FO.

Trip7 10-27-2009 06:04 AM
Originally Posted by John Pennekamp (Post 701845)
Oh, well if it was on FI, then it MUST be true!
That's why I posted on here also to get some sort of verification til I can get to my contract.

John Pennekamp 10-27-2009 06:15 AM
Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 701855)
So if the contract is interpreted correctly, a displaced 200 FO cannot displace a 700 FO in our current situation. Only a displaced 200 Capt can displace a 700 FO.
Correct. Then the FO from the -700 who was displaced by the Captain downgrading could displace the bottom -700 to the -200. Or if the downgrading CA goes to the -200, the -200 FO he bumps could displace to the -700, and displace a -700 FO to the -200. When you are displaced, you get your highest PREFERENCE your seniority can hold. Confused more now?

Trip7 10-27-2009 06:47 AM
Originally Posted by John Pennekamp (Post 701866)
Correct. Then the FO from the -700 who was displaced by the Captain downgrading could displace the bottom -700 to the -200. Or if the downgrading CA goes to the -200, the -200 FO he bumps could displace to the -700, and displace a -700 FO to the -200. When you are displaced, you get your highest PREFERENCE your seniority can hold. Confused more now?
Thoroughly confused. This whole thing is going to be MESSY

John Pennekamp 10-27-2009 08:46 AM
Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 701884)
This whole thing is going to be MESSY
That is the only thing that is certain.


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