Is it just me.....
06-22-2006 | 06:19 AM
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Is it just me.....
Is it just me or does the USA today seem to always try to put the airlines (understandable) and airline pilots (unnecessary and demeaning) in a bad light. I can understand making the "drunk" pilots look kinda bad, but yesterday's USA today was just disgusting to me. I couldn't find the entire article online, but here is the summary (which makes the pilots look even worse than the article in its entirety) of the article from USA Today's website:
Now did they really need to put all that in the article? Especially the whole Airplane quote. The drunken pilots over the past couple years put the profession in a bad enough light, this just adds to it.
Nearing Midway, pilots worried
Runway status debated in cockpit before crash
[FINAL Edition]
USA TODAY - McLean, Va.
Author: Alan Levin
Date: Jun 21, 2006
Start Page: A.1
Section: NEWS
Text Word Count: 423
Abstract (Document Summary)
"If it's poor, it's scary," said First Officer Steven Oliver, a reference to reports that snow on the runway had made braking conditions on the runway "poor."
Oliver and [Bruce Sutherland] told investigators after the crash that they saw Joshua's father, Leroy, his face bloodied, holding his 4- year-old son, Jake, and screaming at the pilots. Joshua was trapped inside the car.
The transcript shows that the mood of the cockpit was a mix of casual banter and concern. Before the situation became chaotic, the pilots joked and laughed. After concluding they could land at 7:04 p.m., Oliver quoted from the 1980 film Airplane, a spoof of air- disaster movies. "Picked the wrong day to stop sniffin' glue," he said.
Runway status debated in cockpit before crash
[FINAL Edition]
USA TODAY - McLean, Va.
Author: Alan Levin
Date: Jun 21, 2006
Start Page: A.1
Section: NEWS
Text Word Count: 423
Abstract (Document Summary)
"If it's poor, it's scary," said First Officer Steven Oliver, a reference to reports that snow on the runway had made braking conditions on the runway "poor."
Oliver and [Bruce Sutherland] told investigators after the crash that they saw Joshua's father, Leroy, his face bloodied, holding his 4- year-old son, Jake, and screaming at the pilots. Joshua was trapped inside the car.
The transcript shows that the mood of the cockpit was a mix of casual banter and concern. Before the situation became chaotic, the pilots joked and laughed. After concluding they could land at 7:04 p.m., Oliver quoted from the 1980 film Airplane, a spoof of air- disaster movies. "Picked the wrong day to stop sniffin' glue," he said.
Now did they really need to put all that in the article? Especially the whole Airplane quote. The drunken pilots over the past couple years put the profession in a bad enough light, this just adds to it.
06-22-2006 | 06:24 AM
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From: C-17 Sim Pilot Inst
Originally Posted by directbears
Now did they really need to put all that in the article? Especially the whole Airplane quote. The drunken pilots over the past couple years put the profession in a bad enough light, this just adds to it.
I posted this quote in another forum, but it applies here too: "If it bleeds, it leads" is the S.O.P. for the media these days, the news coverage is more about ratings than actual news anymore.
06-22-2006 | 10:32 AM
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It is hard to remember that absolutely everything that you say in the cockpit is taped. I think everybody has made some sort of "Airplane/Top Gun" (only for the real nerds) Reference at one time or another and its a harsh reality that this will be used against you in the media even if you do everything right.
Now I know that the crew in that accident probably should have made a different decision (I said "probably" because I wasn't there, so I can't second guess) I am not trying to relieve them of responsibility but such joking around at a critical phase of flight can change the accident from a "tragic mis-calculation" to "Pilot Negligence"
Now I know that the crew in that accident probably should have made a different decision (I said "probably" because I wasn't there, so I can't second guess) I am not trying to relieve them of responsibility but such joking around at a critical phase of flight can change the accident from a "tragic mis-calculation" to "Pilot Negligence"
06-22-2006 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Flatspin7
such joking around at a critical phase of flight can change the accident from a "tragic mis-calculation" to "Pilot Negligence"
06-22-2006 | 12:27 PM
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welcome to america,
reporters are nothing more than paparazzi with college degrees looking to come up with a story that causes the most uproar.
thats why i stopped watching the news, i get more political insight out of southpark and the daily show
reporters are nothing more than paparazzi with college degrees looking to come up with a story that causes the most uproar.
thats why i stopped watching the news, i get more political insight out of southpark and the daily show
06-22-2006 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by hatetobreakit2u
welcome to america,
reporters are nothing more than paparazzi with college degrees looking to come up with a story that causes the most uproar.
thats why i stopped watching the news, i get more political insight out of southpark and the daily show
reporters are nothing more than paparazzi with college degrees looking to come up with a story that causes the most uproar.
thats why i stopped watching the news, i get more political insight out of southpark and the daily show
06-22-2006 | 12:56 PM
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From: 737 FO
Originally Posted by MikeB525
If I read the CVR transcript correctly, that statement was made during cruise/initial decent, not during sterile cockpit time.
You and I both know that in cruise you can sit up there and legally sing show tunes and quote old monty python skits. But the press really doesn't give a rats arse!
06-22-2006 | 02:01 PM
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From: high speed taxi driver
Originally Posted by Flatspin7
Appearently that fact doesnt really matter in the eyes of the press...
You and I both know that in cruise you can sit up there and legally sing show tunes and quote old monty python skits. But the press really doesn't give a rats arse!
You and I both know that in cruise you can sit up there and legally sing show tunes and quote old monty python skits. But the press really doesn't give a rats arse!
