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flyths1 11-09-2009 09:06 AM

9-E Pilots....Are You Back To Talking
 
.......muttering in the FD.......or twiddling your thumbs in regard to you labor talks..


You guys must enjoy long surgery with out pain killers or being put to sleep..

What is the hang up.....trying to replace your MEC that does not sleep in the same bed as management????

av8sean 11-09-2009 09:49 AM

Actually you pretty much summed it up correctly. Elections are in progress.

Jetrecruiter 11-09-2009 10:08 AM

We replaced the N.C and not much change has happened since... I am for recalling the MEC chairman.... S.E is got to go!! His actions are those of one sharing a bed with the company.

Inconceivable 11-09-2009 10:10 AM

The vote for the MEM reps was moved around after schedules were published (shifty!) and were made for Friday evenings when only senior pilots could attend.

A gaggle of super-senior MEM captains showed up to try and vote in a person who was not even a MEMBER of the union for a decade and a half. ***?!?! These old farts only want their raise and to heck with everyone else. They feel they've laid in the fouled bed they have made for themselves long enough you should be grateful to do the same. What scumbags.

As I said when I worked there years ago, the real enemy is not management it is the top 100 loser lifers on the seniority list (mostly in MEM) who know they have no where else to go so they take any abuse management dishes out. I see nothing has changed.

av8sean 11-09-2009 10:58 AM

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SErickson 11-09-2009 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by Jetrecruiter (Post 709013)
We replaced the N.C and not much change has happened since... I am for recalling the MEC chairman.... S.E is got to go!! His actions are those of one sharing a bed with the company.

In bed with management? Really? Please elaborate.

mooney 11-09-2009 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by Inconceivable (Post 709018)

As I said when I worked there years ago, the real enemy is not management it is the top 100 loser lifers on the seniority list (mostly in MEM) who know they have no where else to go so they take any abuse management dishes out. I see nothing has changed.

that's odd. I think you'd be surprised by the number of junior guys that bend over for managment. I see it on a daily basis. Not calling in sick, sprinting through the terminal to be on time, proactively calling ops to ger such-and-such done to be on time, not knowing the contract or TA and always relying on someone else to tell them what's in it, etc

If it were only the top 100 guys, we would have had a larger no-TA vote.
If it were only the top 100 guys, we wouldn't have the best on-time in the industry. it takes a whole pilot group for that, not just 100 guys.
No I am not in the 100 club :)

80ktsClamp 11-09-2009 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by Jetrecruiter (Post 709013)
We replaced the N.C and not much change has happened since... I am for recalling the MEC chairman.... S.E is got to go!! His actions are those of one sharing a bed with the company.

I wouldn't give him that much credit... incompetent would be a better description.

IBPilot 11-09-2009 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Jetrecruiter (Post 709013)
We replaced the N.C and not much change has happened since... I am for recalling the MEC chairman.... S.E is got to go!! His actions are those of one sharing a bed with the company.

Well why don't your publicly start that drive at Pinnacle, where people know who you are, rather than talking big and no action on an anonymous forum? No need to answer I already know.....


Originally Posted by Inconceivable (Post 709018)
The vote for the MEM reps was moved around after schedules were published (shifty!) and were made for Friday evenings when only senior pilots could attend.

A gaggle of super-senior MEM captains showed up to try and vote in a person who was not even a MEMBER of the union for a decade and a half. ***?!?! These old farts only want their raise and to heck with everyone else. They feel they've laid in the fouled bed they have made for themselves long enough you should be grateful to do the same. What scumbags.

As I said when I worked there years ago, the real enemy is not management it is the top 100 loser lifers on the seniority list (mostly in MEM) who know they have no where else to go so they take any abuse management dishes out. I see nothing has changed.

For someone who has been gone from Pinnacle for 8 years, you sure seem to be a know it all and really concerned with them!
I wasn't aware they published the demographics of the "yes" voters....

cencal83406 11-09-2009 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 709166)
I wouldn't give him that much credit... incompetent would be a better description.

Ha, if you really think a regional MEC chair is incompetent - and I presume you weren't at the TA road shows, I can only imagine you think Lee Moak is a complete and utter failure. Signing back door deals to further erode the junior pilot positions after great gains in the JPWA...


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