AWAC Hiring Spring 2010
#201
It doesn't matter. Low time is not an absolute indicator of success in the training process.
A few years ago we had quite a few folks come over from a couple of other carriers. Some of them were high-time captains and had thousands of hours in the same type of airplane. Some of them flunked out. Others had attitude problems. Still others weren't happy after a few months.
They're not looking for pilots with tens of thousands of hours. They're looking for professionals who will fit in with the corporate culture, who won't have bad attitudes, who will try hard in training, who will be competent (not perfect), who they can expect to keep for while, etc.
They're not looking for Chuck Yeager or Neil Armstrong or former 747 captains.
Keep trying. Persistence can pay off.
AWAC has good points and bad points. One of the good points is that we have a good, solid pilot group of professionals (mostly) who try to get along and do the right thing. If you think you can fit in with that keep trying. If someone thinks they are going to reinvent aviation they probably won't succeed.
Anyway.... Just because you are 'low' time doesn't mean everything. They are selective in hiring and training, but high time is not the only metric.
Just sayin'...
A few years ago we had quite a few folks come over from a couple of other carriers. Some of them were high-time captains and had thousands of hours in the same type of airplane. Some of them flunked out. Others had attitude problems. Still others weren't happy after a few months.
They're not looking for pilots with tens of thousands of hours. They're looking for professionals who will fit in with the corporate culture, who won't have bad attitudes, who will try hard in training, who will be competent (not perfect), who they can expect to keep for while, etc.
They're not looking for Chuck Yeager or Neil Armstrong or former 747 captains.
Keep trying. Persistence can pay off.
AWAC has good points and bad points. One of the good points is that we have a good, solid pilot group of professionals (mostly) who try to get along and do the right thing. If you think you can fit in with that keep trying. If someone thinks they are going to reinvent aviation they probably won't succeed.
Anyway.... Just because you are 'low' time doesn't mean everything. They are selective in hiring and training, but high time is not the only metric.
Just sayin'...
#202
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From: FO4LIFE
I was told they got 1100+ applications over 3 days, and they are hiring maybe 10-12 pilots, with the possibility of 30. That's about 1%. They already held interviews last week, but I'm not sure of the exact number of applicants with the majority being furloughed pilots (Mesaba, Comair, Mesa, etc.)
As far as the min. requirements: 1500TT/500ME & Turbine Experience. Airline experience preferred.
As far as the min. requirements: 1500TT/500ME & Turbine Experience. Airline experience preferred.
#204
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It doesn't matter. Low time is not an absolute indicator of success in the training process.
A few years ago we had quite a few folks come over from a couple of other carriers. Some of them were high-time captains and had thousands of hours in the same type of airplane. Some of them flunked out. Others had attitude problems. Still others weren't happy after a few months.
They're not looking for pilots with tens of thousands of hours. They're looking for professionals who will fit in with the corporate culture, who won't have bad attitudes, who will try hard in training, who will be competent (not perfect), who they can expect to keep for while, etc.
They're not looking for Chuck Yeager or Neil Armstrong or former 747 captains.
Keep trying. Persistence can pay off.
AWAC has good points and bad points. One of the good points is that we have a good, solid pilot group of professionals (mostly) who try to get along and do the right thing. If you think you can fit in with that keep trying. If someone thinks they are going to reinvent aviation they probably won't succeed.
Anyway.... Just because you are 'low' time doesn't mean everything. They are selective in hiring and training, but high time is not the only metric.
Just sayin'...
A few years ago we had quite a few folks come over from a couple of other carriers. Some of them were high-time captains and had thousands of hours in the same type of airplane. Some of them flunked out. Others had attitude problems. Still others weren't happy after a few months.
They're not looking for pilots with tens of thousands of hours. They're looking for professionals who will fit in with the corporate culture, who won't have bad attitudes, who will try hard in training, who will be competent (not perfect), who they can expect to keep for while, etc.
They're not looking for Chuck Yeager or Neil Armstrong or former 747 captains.
Keep trying. Persistence can pay off.
AWAC has good points and bad points. One of the good points is that we have a good, solid pilot group of professionals (mostly) who try to get along and do the right thing. If you think you can fit in with that keep trying. If someone thinks they are going to reinvent aviation they probably won't succeed.
Anyway.... Just because you are 'low' time doesn't mean everything. They are selective in hiring and training, but high time is not the only metric.
Just sayin'...
#207
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Originally Posted by saab2000
It doesn't matter. Low time is not an absolute indicator of success in the training process.
A few years ago we had quite a few folks come over from a couple of other carriers. Some of them were high-time captains and had thousands of hours in the same type of airplane. Some of them flunked out. Others had attitude problems. Still others weren't happy after a few months.
They're not looking for pilots with tens of thousands of hours. They're looking for professionals who will fit in with the corporate culture, who won't have bad attitudes, who will try hard in training, who will be competent (not perfect), who they can expect to keep for while, etc.
They're not looking for Chuck Yeager or Neil Armstrong or former 747 captains.
Keep trying. Persistence can pay off.
AWAC has good points and bad points. One of the good points is that we have a good, solid pilot group of professionals (mostly) who try to get along and do the right thing. If you think you can fit in with that keep trying. If someone thinks they are going to reinvent aviation they probably won't succeed.
Anyway.... Just because you are 'low' time doesn't mean everything. They are selective in hiring and training, but high time is not the only metric.
Just sayin'...
This is just a fancy way of them saying, "if the HR people like you, you are hired. If they don't, you are not."
....just sayin'
It doesn't matter. Low time is not an absolute indicator of success in the training process.
A few years ago we had quite a few folks come over from a couple of other carriers. Some of them were high-time captains and had thousands of hours in the same type of airplane. Some of them flunked out. Others had attitude problems. Still others weren't happy after a few months.
They're not looking for pilots with tens of thousands of hours. They're looking for professionals who will fit in with the corporate culture, who won't have bad attitudes, who will try hard in training, who will be competent (not perfect), who they can expect to keep for while, etc.
They're not looking for Chuck Yeager or Neil Armstrong or former 747 captains.
Keep trying. Persistence can pay off.
AWAC has good points and bad points. One of the good points is that we have a good, solid pilot group of professionals (mostly) who try to get along and do the right thing. If you think you can fit in with that keep trying. If someone thinks they are going to reinvent aviation they probably won't succeed.
Anyway.... Just because you are 'low' time doesn't mean everything. They are selective in hiring and training, but high time is not the only metric.
Just sayin'...
This is just a fancy way of them saying, "if the HR people like you, you are hired. If they don't, you are not."
....just sayin'
#208
Originally Posted by saab2000
It doesn't matter. Low time is not an absolute indicator of success in the training process.
A few years ago we had quite a few folks come over from a couple of other carriers. Some of them were high-time captains and had thousands of hours in the same type of airplane. Some of them flunked out. Others had attitude problems. Still others weren't happy after a few months.
They're not looking for pilots with tens of thousands of hours. They're looking for professionals who will fit in with the corporate culture, who won't have bad attitudes, who will try hard in training, who will be competent (not perfect), who they can expect to keep for while, etc.
They're not looking for Chuck Yeager or Neil Armstrong or former 747 captains.
Keep trying. Persistence can pay off.
AWAC has good points and bad points. One of the good points is that we have a good, solid pilot group of professionals (mostly) who try to get along and do the right thing. If you think you can fit in with that keep trying. If someone thinks they are going to reinvent aviation they probably won't succeed.
Anyway.... Just because you are 'low' time doesn't mean everything. They are selective in hiring and training, but high time is not the only metric.
Just sayin'...
This is just a fancy way of them saying, "if the HR people like you, you are hired. If they don't, you are not."
....just sayin'
It doesn't matter. Low time is not an absolute indicator of success in the training process.
A few years ago we had quite a few folks come over from a couple of other carriers. Some of them were high-time captains and had thousands of hours in the same type of airplane. Some of them flunked out. Others had attitude problems. Still others weren't happy after a few months.
They're not looking for pilots with tens of thousands of hours. They're looking for professionals who will fit in with the corporate culture, who won't have bad attitudes, who will try hard in training, who will be competent (not perfect), who they can expect to keep for while, etc.
They're not looking for Chuck Yeager or Neil Armstrong or former 747 captains.
Keep trying. Persistence can pay off.
AWAC has good points and bad points. One of the good points is that we have a good, solid pilot group of professionals (mostly) who try to get along and do the right thing. If you think you can fit in with that keep trying. If someone thinks they are going to reinvent aviation they probably won't succeed.
Anyway.... Just because you are 'low' time doesn't mean everything. They are selective in hiring and training, but high time is not the only metric.
Just sayin'...
This is just a fancy way of them saying, "if the HR people like you, you are hired. If they don't, you are not."
....just sayin'
I guess I'll still be looking for a job! Good luck guys!!!
#209
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Joined: Aug 2008
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From: FO4LIFE
I exceed the mins. and have a couple of internal recommendations, but I can't get a call. I never understood how Airline HR picks their candidates, never will, but that's just the way it is. They are interviewing more candidates next week, not sure of the number though. My contact told me that from last weeks interviews, 10 candidates will get an offer. Anyone interviewing soon will most likely be placed in a hiring pool. Also, apparently they are working on a preferential hiring agreement with Piedmont & PSA.
#210
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I exceed the mins. and have a couple of internal recommendations, but I can't get a call. I never understood how Airline HR picks their candidates, never will, but that's just the way it is. They are interviewing more candidates next week, not sure of the number though. My contact told me that from last weeks interviews, 10 candidates will get an offer. Anyone interviewing soon will most likely be placed in a hiring pool. Also, apparently they are working on a preferential hiring agreement with Piedmont & PSA.
No such "preferential hiring" exists with PSA or Piedmont. Nor is it in the works.
Just thought I'd clear a few things up.
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