Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 714372)

We do not, but a limitation was just recently changed and I think it is to line up with the DAL Mad Dog procedures.

If the runway is NOT contaminated we can deploy them before the nosewheel touches down, but have to wait for the nosewheel to touch in order to spool them.

If the runway IS contaminated we must wait until the nosewheel is down before we can deploy them.

My guess is it has to do with how the clamshells can hinder the aerodynamic effectiveness of the rudder. I don't know if DAL has the same limitation as AA on their Mad Dogs, as they are much longer then even a DC-9-50.

Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 714514)

I was snooping around dlnet and read that memo about T/R deployment on the 88 and I believe there was something in there about the lower clamshell potentially striking the ground if it was deployed right away with a higher than normal deck angle on touchdown.

Originally Posted by aviatorhi (Post 714585)

How did an Air Whiskey hiring thread get turned into a Mad Dog reverser usage thread? :confused:

Originally Posted by colinflyin (Post 714711)

Great Call. Hope more airlines follow suit with AWAC and bring back furloughs and hire new guys there is a twinkle on the horizon.

Originally Posted by wags3539 (Post 714436)

I don't have the book in front of me, but from memory I believe it's begin stowing them at the 80 knots call, and have them stowed by 60 for AWAC. If that's not exactly it, it's something similar and I usually stow them by 80 anyway.

Originally Posted by bradeku1008 (Post 714776)

You got that right. With AWAC flying only for Airways I dont know why PSA and PDT wouldt be doing the same by the middle of next year.

Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 714504)

Thanks for the replies.

Johnso... the reverse blast hitting the rudder and rendering it useless is a different issue. It resulted in AA not allowing us to go above 1.3 EPR any time on the reverse. That was a contributing factor in the loss of directional control in our accident in LIT in '98.

We could never deploy the buckets until the nosewheel was on the ground. However I haven't been on the -80 in a couple years, someone told me they changed it where you could deploy them as long as the nosewheel is heading down.

Originally Posted by Theonemarine (Post 714850)

Because where AWAC seeks growth, PSA seeks reduction. I mean, really Bradeku, didn't you know PSA's plan for next summer is to furlough down to one Captain, one FO and a checkairmen on reserve to fly both seats? That's all you need to run a properly staffed airline isn't it?