this thread was kinda useful...but not anymore

I'm sorry you think that someone hired as an fo has never had to make a decision on their own. As a CFI I was always making the decision on what was going to happen with the flight. Also during single pilot part 91 corp flying I guess it was just the president of the company in the back seat doing all the IFR flying. When was the last time you flew an aircraft with no autopilot, heading bug, or gps single pilot IFR for 5 hours in IMC at night? Sorry I have more solo time that half a dozen pilots I know at Eagle have PIC time, and I can make my own decisions thanks.

I'll be happy if they pass that 1500 hr rule, that means no low time guy will get in before I have a chance after my contract is over with my current job.

I think maveric was talking about those who were hired with real low time and didnt have the PIC requirement to qualify for an ATP. He has a point that many of those pilots have never had to go through the experiences you have, and if they finish IOE and are in an emergency situation they wont have those past experiences to rely on for solving the situation.

You forgot the part about having one eye taped shut and flying with your toes with both arms tied behind you back.

:rolleyes:

exactly. anyway back on topic. the vac bid out realy doesnt make sense and a lot of us are scratching out head with how to bid. personally I'm not gonna bite untill we get closer to the actual aircraft arriving on property. I defantley dont want to get stuck in a base similiar to what the CRJ is in DFW and ORD. NO FLEXABILITY at all. everything is denied due to staffing where as on the EMJ side we can pretty much do what we want.

Yea, something is definitely up. I'm hoping the ALPA teleconference tomorrow can clear things up a bit.

More then likely this is in anticipation of flowthru's beginning to move over to AA by spring or Summer. The company doesn't want to get caught without enough captains to cover the schedule for Spring/Summer flying because an overage of captains can be used to cover an underage of F/O's, wheras a shortage of captains grinds the schedule down.

There remains a possibility that the company will force all to flow, but more than likely those that pass will just mean another more junior goes. It's reasonable to assume 50-60% of the 244 will accept and that means 120-150 vacancies will occur over the next 6-8 months. First though, a bubble needs to be created to insure the process runs satisfactorily and that is the likely primary purpose of the vacancy bid, but additional factors may be involved as well.

Didnt the company initiate the CQFO program last time they thought this situation was going to happen? Nobody actually went through the procedure, but it seemed like a decent idea if I remember correctly.

barefoot, in the snow.

The best part is when the recalls get displaced to the jet after just finishing ATR requal. How much production has the company gotten out of them since the day they were hired?