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shimmydamp 01-08-2010 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by Sailor (Post 739386)
ALPA, I've sent 4 emails this year to ALPA Communications, asking why wasn't ALPA using our DUES MONEY to advertise on NATIONAL TV, and other media outlets about our work rules, salaries and way of life in general.

ALPA RESPONSE: CA PRATER was on CSPAN!!!

That is IT!!! CSPAN, thats the answer!!!

So the question remains, WHERE DOES ALPA STAND IN OUR INDUSTRY?

CSPAN is where the most powerful people in the free world commonly appear. Capitol Hill is where real tangible change is made. He was also quoted in the Buffalo News, and if you visit ALPA's Members-Only website there is a running ticker on the right side of the screen which shows the union's involvement with the media.

DCH Pilot 01-08-2010 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by plasticpi (Post 740792)
I understand your outrage, but we also have to be careful not to make it seem like passengers are in serious danger when they step foot on a regional airliner, because they're not. A national TV campaign sensationalizing our work rules, pay, etc. could very likely have a negative effect on all of us.


You say that now but wait until your wanting more money or more days off in your next contract. You will be calling every reporter to cover the story as you picket your airlines hub. Pressure from the public can be a good thing.

And last time I checked, getting on an regional airliner with two pilots falling asleep, is dangerous. How quickly we all forget.

The Juice 01-09-2010 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by DCH Pilot (Post 740899)
You say that now but wait until your wanting more money or more days off in your next contract. You will be calling every reporter to cover the story as you picket your airlines hub. Pressure from the public can be a good thing.

And last time I checked, getting on an regional airliner with two pilots falling asleep, is dangerous. How quickly we all forget.

Not just regional pilots fall asleep.....Oh, yeah that's right...they were on their computers:rolleyes:

nwa757 01-12-2010 08:06 AM

Someone that works for Colgan needs to copy and paste this into an ASAP report ASAP..... If I worked there I certainly would!

Unbelievable.

Nevets 01-12-2010 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by plasticpi (Post 740792)
Lets let our negotiating committee work on the fatigue clause in our contract. That will get a lot more done than a media frenzy. Those just lead to knee-jerk overreactions that don't fix the problem.

No one should ever have to negotiate for reasonable safety measures! This is what congress is supposed to be for. Unfortunately I think we sometimes have no other choice.

yamahas3 01-12-2010 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 742621)
No one should ever have to negotiate for reasonable safety measures! This is what congress is supposed to be for. Unfortunately I think we sometimes have no other choice.

Exactly, safety should not be negotiated.

It is completely ridiculous that we as airline pilots have to expend negotiating capitol on things such as fatigue policies and duty/rest rules. That IS NOT compensation WHATSOEVER. We are paying to make the airline safe because the airline and the FAA won't.

CNNreporter 02-03-2010 02:43 AM

CNN Reporter Checking Colgan Fatigue Policy
 
Please contact me via e-mail today (2/3/10) if you are a current or former Colgan employee who can speak about the fatigue policy. Thank you.

[email protected]

belliott 02-03-2010 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by CNNreporter (Post 756894)
Please contact me via e-mail today (2/3/10) if you are a current or former Colgan employee who can speak about the fatigue policy. Thank you.

[email protected]


Yeah... good luck with that.

StrikeTime 02-03-2010 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by belliott (Post 756904)
Yeah... good luck with that.

Since you don’t understand, let me offer you a crystal clear explanation of what this reporter is trying to do:

He is on the pilot’s side. He is trying to make the public aware of our pay, working conditions, and the rules we abide too. Without the help of reporters getting this information out to the public, things will never change for us.

So next time you complain about pay, schedule, fatigue, and how your airline is screwing you and how your union sucks, just remember that your contributing to it by not opening your mouth when you have the opportunity.

P.S: If I worked for Colgan I would be all over this opportunity contingent upon one written agreement: My name wouldn’t be used and my face wouldn’t been shown to avoid management reprocussion.

The ignorance people demonstrate amazes me…

Sparky 02-03-2010 07:02 AM

[QUOTE=StrikeTime;756977]Since you don’t understand, let me offer you a crystal clear explanation of what this reporter is trying to do:

He is on the pilot’s side. He is trying to make the public aware of our pay, working conditions, and the rules we abide too. Without the help of reporters getting this information out to the public, things will never change for us.

So next time you complain about pay, schedule, fatigue, and how your airline is screwing you and how your union sucks, just remember that your contributing to it by not opening your mouth when you have the opportunity.

P.S: If I worked for Colgan I would be all over this opportunity contingent upon one written agreement: My name wouldn’t be used and my face wouldn’t been shown to avoid management reprocussion.

The ignorance people demonstrate amazes me…[/QUOTE


Great post!
This is a CNN reporter, this is a great opportunity to expose these ridiculous policies. I'm sure your identity would be protected. I would hope to think he's going to be flooded by responses!


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