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seahawker01 01-02-2010 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by flyguyniner11 (Post 735860)
no...just a reg line pilot who thinks people shouldn't use a safety policy to get free days off..calling fatigue shouldn't be a joke that people throw around if they want to get a day off which I have seen many times.

Care to identify yourself or is this just flame? I agree it should not be abused but the new policy was not the right way to go about correcting that.

rustypigeon 01-03-2010 06:56 AM

Colgan made the front page of the Buffalo News today.

When defending the policy, the vice president of safety wrote "...when given an opportunity to demonstrate a lack of professionalism and maturity, a disappointing number of our crew members will do so."

That is just what the passengers want to hear. Not only are Colgans pilots flying fatigued, they are also immature and unprofessional.

I can't believe they can get people to fly on their airplanes anymore.

Clocks 01-03-2010 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by rustypigeon (Post 737032)
Colgan made the front page of the Buffalo News today.

When defending the policy, the vice president of safety wrote "...when given an opportunity to demonstrate a lack of professionalism and maturity, a disappointing number of our crew members will do so."

That is just what the passengers want to hear. Not only are Colgans pilots flying fatigued, they are also immature and unprofessional.

I can't believe they can get people to fly on their airplanes anymore.

Wow, that's classic. Yet the line for interviews will be out the door.

edit - here's the whole story: http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/910797.html

SaltyDog 01-03-2010 07:33 AM

Does no one at Colgan management do a sanity check before they act/speak? Really a future business study on airline management failure to understand public affairs.

BoilerUP 01-03-2010 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by SaltyDog (Post 737050)
Does no one at Colgan management do a sanity check before they act/speak? Really a future business study on airline management failure to understand public affairs.

Nobody has ever accused airline management of being chock-full of "business sense"...

PSACFI 01-03-2010 08:04 AM

So to take care of maybe a handful of people who abuse the policy they are going to punish the entire pilot group and jeopardize safety?

BoilerUP 01-03-2010 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by PSACFI (Post 737066)
So to take care of maybe a handful of people who abuse the policy they are going to punish the entire pilot group and jeopardize safety?

That's how the airline bidness has ALWAYS worked - reduce everything to the lowest common denominator...

SaltyDog 01-03-2010 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 737058)
Nobody has ever accused airline management of being chock-full of "business sense"...

Maybe we can team up and offer Pinnacle a 'business consultant' proposition: Hire us to review basic safety public affairs press releases for all their business interests. <g> Am sure some attorneys have already expensed in their settlement more than we would charge. Zing...

BoilerUP 01-03-2010 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by SaltyDog
Am sure some attorneys have already expensed in their settlement more than we would charge. Zing...

There we pilots go, "lowering the bar" again! :D

One would have to think that SOMEBODY with an ATP and a type rating or three in Pinnacle Flight Operations would have enough pull, or lacking pull, basic freaking input to prevent stu-uuuuuuu-pid statements like the one published in the Buffalo Times from getting out...:confused:

horusfalcon 01-03-2010 09:29 AM

The Buffalo News: Who's Flying Your Airplane?

"Along the way, much remains untaught.

For years, many regionals — like Colgan Air, which operated Flight 3407 — left training for icing conditions largely to a 10-year-old, 30-minute, NASA-produced video.

That video focused in part on the rare phenomenon of plane tail icing. That's a problem, because a pilot's proper response to tail icing is exactly the wrong response to a wing stall.

The pilot of Continental Connection Flight 3407, Capt. Marvin Renslow, picked the wrong response."



Interesting


Maybe Chuck Steak, will be on Pinnacle's menu at their next Bar B Q


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