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Old 01-02-2010 | 11:52 PM
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I spent a few minutes looking at this thread and notice that some of the figures were a little higher than I expected. Let me explain. From what I understand, an estimate of the yearly salary will be ~1000x the hourly wage. I took a quick look through the thread and found that some FO’s made a bit more than the estimated amount.

For example, one person on 3rd yr pay made 46k, and another person on 3rd year pay made 44k.

My question is, how typical is it for pilots to make a bit more than the initial estimate would suggest? Do the majority of regional FO’s make extra cash, or are these guys a fortunate few?
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Old 01-03-2010 | 02:01 AM
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I have a feeling some of them are including per diem.
Things that can push you past your 1000 hrs per yr and not be counted as flying are things such as ground school, deadheads, pay protection for cancellations, trip rigs, reserve credit, simulator, international over-ride, night over-ride etc, etc.
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Old 01-03-2010 | 03:27 AM
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It's actually hourly wage multiplied by how much you credit for the month. Credits are different than hours flown. This is where good work rules come in.
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Old 01-03-2010 | 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamers
It's actually hourly wage multiplied by how much you credit for the month. Credits are different than hours flown. This is where good work rules come in.
Deadheads can be a huge factor with monthly credit amounts. Before being furloughed I would credit 60+ hours (not including guarantee) with only flying approx 35 hrs. This was due to my company constantly deadheading me around the US at 3/4 pay. Every trip would include an average of one deadhead every day!

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Old 01-03-2010 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamers
It's actually hourly wage multiplied by how much you credit for the month. Credits are different than hours flown. This is where good work rules come in.

This is correct. Due to good work rules, one can fly 85 hours a month but get paid for 90 to 100+. So you could fly 1000 a yr but get paid for 1200 a year. Also some include per diem and some don't, as it is technically a reimbursement, not income. And every trip is different, so one person who flies 1000/yr will make different credit than another that flies 1000/yr.
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Old 01-03-2010 | 07:04 AM
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In addition to workrules, performance bonuses, holiday bonuses, and training pay all add up too.
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Old 01-03-2010 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
In addition to workrules, performance bonuses, holiday bonuses, and training pay all add up too.

Not at Trans-States they don't...
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Old 01-03-2010 | 08:31 AM
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I haven't seen it mentioned so don't forget block or better. Probably an easy 50+hrs of flight pay on top of what's scheduled. I think this year I was paid around 1100hrs total with 960ish flown. So there's training etc in there.
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3rd Year ASA pay Grossed over $45K this year working hard in the summer and coasting the rest of the year...It's def. possible to make +7K on top of hourly pay rate X 1000
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Old 01-03-2010 | 10:31 AM
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The testament of a good contract is how much you gross compared to how much you flew. In other words, your gross pay divided by actual hours flown.
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