SkyWest Closing ATL base March 1.
 

I guess SkyWest made the decision to close the ATL base on Mar 1. On another subject there is talk we will be flying more out of MSP.

Maybe they will give some flying back to ASA

No, Pinnacle 50s come in next month.

So is Skywest still going to operate out of ATL?

What are the rumors saying about which carrier that MSP flying is for???

Sound like you got a new contract with Northwest.;)

Really? Just curious, but what is the OFFICIAL source for your post? As a ORD based Skywest Captain, I cannot find any information regarding a base closure on the Skywest company/employee website.

And unless Google is missing a news story somewhere, a general internet search doesn't seem to reveal anything either.

I fully admit, I could be missing something, somewhere.

(Note: I am not challenging your post as being wrong, I would just like to know your source. If the source is a friend who just went to sim in SLC, who heard from a friend, who . . . well, you get the idea . . . :D)

I didn't get any new contract with Northwest. I actually work for Pinnacle, but this would go directly with one of the biggest rumors floating around our company at the moment. The talk is that we are getting the LGA flying from Delta and will close MSP. Another company saying they are ramping up flying in MSP would seem to make this a lot more likely.

Of course we all know how rumors go. I won't believe anything till I see a vacancy, and even then I will be sceptical.

if skywest is closing ATL i wonder how long before S5 closes theirs.

How about Comair, Mesaba, Compass, Pinnacle etc??? ASA is not the ONLY DCI carrier out there. AND last I checked others such as Comair are hurting far worse then ASA is....... I'd wish for them to gain flying if it were going somewhere. Better yet how about Mainline takes the flying back??? Novel concept eh?

I think the point of his ASA comment was that ASA is guaranteed a certain percentage of the regional flying out of ATL. At least that is how I have understood the situation over the years. I also believe that they are already under this guaranteed percentage. Hence the "give flying back to ASA" comment.

The ATL folks apparently got notified already. They are discussing it on the sapa forums.

Thanks, I'll check those out.

RAH.........................

Yes, at ASA we share our guaranteed percentage of ATL flying with Skywest. So all I was saying is that if Skywest was leaving, it would be nice to get some of our flying back.

It would be nice thats for sure....

Again I'm just being a jerk here, so I appologize in advance... Is the flying not DAL's? Perhaps if Skywest is leaving that flying will go back to DAL and be flown for a lot better payrates and work rules..... I mean if DAL is under the allowed amount currently would there not be some sort of contractual violation being pursued in the court system or something more about this???

Yeah, you kind of are, and since you yourself recognize this, why don't you just stop?

First off, that's a very loaded question. Sure it's DAL's but they contracted it away. No longer wanted it. Gone. Now we fly it for them. furthermore, as part of the sale of ASA to SkyWest (which funded their exit from bankruptcy), DAL GUARANTEED ASA 80% of all ATL flying (this has since been modified to give SkyWest Inc. 80%, to decide which carrier flies it themselves). Nevertheless, YES, per the contract we (ASA) have with Delta it IS our flying. should Mainline cut DCI and "take the flying back" as you put it, ASA/SkyWest is STILL guaranteed 80% of ATL feed. Therefore, they have to take it from someone else. So as to the OP, logic would have it that if SkyWest is pulling out, ASA would take it back from SkyWest. As of late, however, DAL has been bringing more carriers into ATL and making up our 80% elsewhere, like LGA and CVG. They do not want any one DCI to have too much influence, and DAL is fully aware that we go into contract talks a year from now.

90 day notice???

As I said above, we're the only one with guaranteed flying percentages. As for mainline taking it back, that will happen when the DAL pilots decide to fly 50-90 seat jets on <300 mile legs, for our pay scale and benefits. Ain't going to happen.

It just humors me that Delta flying is referred to ASA pilots as "OUR FLYING" or "OUR ROUTES" and what not... It is actually really annoying to hear such since its truely Delta's.... And I think we all would rather see Delta take THEIR flying back... But guess that is just too much to hope for.

Since it's so annoying, maybe you just shouldn't read it? Thank you for your opinion. buh bye now.

You are right, because DAL actually has a REAL nice payrate for such flying... And that would force them to lower the bar and I DOUBT they will do that... They are not DESPERATE to fly for pennies like some others apparently are.

You are right, its a Skywest thread... Not an ASA or Skywest Inc thread ;)! Perhaps you should just be thankful for Skywest GIVING you UAL flying....

At first I thought you really didn't get it. I just realized that all your doing here is flamebaiting. And I'm not taking the bait. goodbye.

Wait are you the man from that TV show... The ARROGANT "Airline Pilot" struting around like he's God's gift to women and aviation? Wait my bad that's Jake not John... Must just be an ASA thing.... :)

Its only really nice if you think that what regional pilots are paid is anywhere near acceptable.

Their negotiated pay rate for "RJs" is, when compared to their other fleet types and historical numbers for similar sized aircraft, still low. Just because its 2x or so what regional pilots are getting paid doesn't mean its "REAL nice." Its still low but its a heckuva lot better.

Nice flamebait. Really showing your true colors now. Go back to Flightinfo.

Very true... But the pay in which they would get if FLOWN by DAL is considerably more then what ASA or any other regional is currently making... Which as you said is a HECKUVA lot better... Perhaps that rate should be reposted for people to see again....No where did I say pay was acceptable by the way. John_Pennakamp was the one whom in a round about way stated it was....

Don't waste your bandwidth. This guy is just trying to start a flame war. Ignore him, logic doesn't apply.

You might be the ONLY person I've viewed on here to put CRJ-200 Captain ASA on this avatar? Really???

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Check yours out and change that... No need for that. And last I checked there was no flamebait, just simply saying that this OUR flying mentality needs to change... To better ALL of us and our slim career aspirations...

People, do not squabble amongst yourselves like a pack of hungry dogs after scraps tossed in by a slave master. That's exactly what DAL management wants you to do. Divide and conquer. I am sure you all noticed, DAL changes who flies out where on a weekly basis. Who knows who will fly what out where next week or month. Just be glad you have a job for now and prepare for the worst just in case.

Looks like I really touched a nerve. Guess you don't like being called out.

Ok this is slightly getting out of control.... I simply stated that this "OH WE ARE GETTING screwed at ASA" mentality is annoying. This OUR FLYING stuff that is constantly talked about when last I checked the name that comes before the "connection" is whom the FLYING belongs to. You then continue to say that it cannot go like that because DAL would not fly the planes for what you fly them for. I simply stated you are right, because they would never lower the bar to such a payrate when they have better payrates established (which can still be improved) but when compared to even ASA are far better and have greater work rules and protection.....

Anyways... Again I rather see the flying go back to DAL.... And if nothing else perhaps more flying going to a Comair, Mesaba and other places that have more furloughs then ASA whom Skywest Inc managed to help out with some UAL flying..... Let alone you have viewed since you area Captain with ASA how Delta continues to give flying and take it away such as the 900's that you currently have.... How many others were those given to and then taken away from (Comair, Pinnacle, Mesaba any others?)???

Go ahead and quote the Dal "90 seat rate". (It's buried in the DAL PWA). Last time I checked it was below ours. Touche.

Soooo this thread is a disaster. Anyways, I find it to be a good step in repairing the riff among skywest management and ASA pilots. The Skywest ATL base has been a sore spot for many of us for some time, also the fact that skywest is recalling the VLA pilots instead of hiring off the street seems to be an appropriate step in the minds of many of our pilots. It's very interesting that they are making these decisions right before we start to vote for PBS.

Well keeping in mind DAL's is only a 12 year scale with bumps each year until 2012 I believe....

Right now DAL Captains flying the 900 would be

1 98.84
2 99.59
3 100.40
4 101.22
5 102.00
6 102.82
7 103.62
8 104.44
9 105.24
10 106.05
11 106.88
12 107.67

First Officers Start at 54.17 and end at 74 at 12 years.... Where's any regional close to that?

Better work rules, etc.... And tops out at year 12, is ASA an 18 year scale right?

The truth hurts, only when it should.

Sorry to be the first to tell you that the guys you work with don't like you.

Well you just shot yourself in the foot, ASA has more on furlough then Mesaba. Further more, don't blame SKYW Inc., ASA or SKYW for writing a contract that gives a certain percentages of flying. This is our job security and the bigger picture is, if other regionals can get such contracts then you would be singing a different tone. On the other hand "wholly owns" do not have the luxury of such contracts and that is unfortunate. But the bottom line is I chose ASA because of the RELATIVE job security due to their contract. Granted I am furloughed, I still wouldn't go anywhere else because other regionals are bit more vulnerable with the Delta shuffle. Furthermore SKYW Inc. parking ASA's planes does them no good. So the United flying wasn't a "gift" as you put it, it was a necessity because at the end of the day, it is still SKYW INC. A/C's and they don't want to park it.

hmmm And PSA pay chart is.... better VS the rest of the regionals? Maybe you should clean house before you criticize the pay rates of other regionals. From what I see, your 200 pilots are paid the same as you 700 pilots. GREAT EXAMPLE of working for pennies. (I do apologize to other pilots at PSA, I do not mean to belittle you. Just trying to make a point.)

Say what? :) Oh lordy.... Dont make me change my thoughts on Mesa... As of now I have no reason to dislike or wish them and their pilot group any harm....