Strange Rumor: XJ
 

Just heard the implausible rumor that XJ may file CH.11 again. Any truth to this?

Seems odd.

I don't know if you're screwing up airline codes. But XJ (Mesaba) going Ch11 would actually be DAL going Ch11 I believe.

Where did you hear that peach? That's less believeable than the merging with Comair rumor. And that one is completely unbelieveable right now.

That's what happens when people start talking in code.

Mesaba Airlines. XJ

Expressjet Airlines. XJET

Expressjet Airlines is actually XE.

Fixed it for ya

I do in fact mean Mesaba. A subsidiary can in fact file for BK.

Heard from DAL

Why would Mesaba file for BK? What would the company gain by doisng so?

Your source of information is DAL! What source at Delta?

Mesa's J.O. recently spoke of keeping Go! out of Bk filing, but that seems unlikely since it's a wholly owned, (i.e. Delta files so ComAir had to). Even IF they could file seperately (can't think of any examples), why would they want to?

Was this from the cousin of a friend that a flight attendant's neighbor told you?!

XE for CASS
XJT for Market
Xjet for the website.

"People...Top...People"

DAL Pilot Types have been hearing this. Could be an easy way to shed extra unwanted lift/aircraft without having to go to court or buy out a contract.

Don't really believe it. But is slightly plausible.

I dont think so.

their goal would be to shed aircraft, especially if the lessors/owners aren't budging on terms of the contracts.

Even the threat is normally enough to make people come to the table.

Do you ever think before posting? The implication that XJT is going under is absurd given the recent events and developments.

Yeah no not gonna happen. The Saabs are already on their last leg before the leases expire. The 200's are the youngest in the delta fleet. They'll be transfered to another company before ever getting dumped. 900's ...... Not going anywhere. You can put this rumor to rest it has zero merit.

This is a rumor I am glad to hear is not true. Mesaba has been through the ringer to many times to count.

Mods, can we close this usless thread

That was already done when we were in bankruptcy. The Saab leases were redone to allow for an early termination date. Delta is phasing them out currently. All will be gone within 2 years as it is. There is no reason to go to bankruptcy to dump them. The 200's are the newest in all of DCI, they would be transfered to park older 100/200's. The 900's aren't going anywhere. Delta would gladly add more if they could.

Yeah, Comair was forced to file, even though they did not need to, because they would have been an asset the creditors could have gone after during DAL's bankruptcy.

I'd give it one in a million.........so im saying there's a chance

Delta owns all the books and can cook them any way they please. They can make Comair, Compass, RHS, or Mesaba money-losers or money-makers with the stroke of a pen.

When Comair was up for sale, they were "making boatloads of money". Two months later, when the pilot contract was up for renegotiations, Comair was "bleeding millions". Only Delta knows the truth.

I don't think Delta wants to open up their books by filing Ch11 and letting everyone see how much XJ makes with negotiations starting next year.

As far as Delta filing for just XJ - How about they just file for the XJ airplanes they want to dump?

Wouldn't that be like Donald Trump having his left leg file bankruptcy, but don't touch that stuff over there cause it belongs to his right leg?

But they cannot....due to scope restrictions??

That's correct. The 70/76 seat RJ # has reached the cap, & no more are allowed until Mainline grows considerably. We have to return to 770-ish airplanes in the Mainline fleet, & then grow from there before they can add.

With 757/767's sitting in the desert since the economy tanked, and the DC9-30/40's(That's 32 aircraft) being retired this year it's going to be a while before any more RJs come to DCI land.

Maybe they were dumb mainline pilots, and they really meant Mesa

That would be my guess.

x2 on really meaning Mesa (not the dumb part)

If i had to guess, the saabs get returned, the -200s reassigned to someone else to dump -200s and the -900s given to another airline on a 1 for 1 swap with 50 seaters. Mesaba's time is limited

Why would Delta want to desolve Mesaba? Guys on this forum been saying for years that Delta will desolve Comair, now it's Mesaba. I see no reason for Delta to desolve any of the wholly owned carriers.

So far your in first place with most ridiculous post in this thread. Runner up is the very first post.

Two out of three ain't bad. IMHO lots of other DCI 900s will be transfered to MESABA and it will become an all 900 operation.

I have heard from several people that ASA and Comair will be getting the XJ -900s. The -200s are going back to Pinnacle on a 1 for 1 basis.

It's all flamebait. These are half of your posts to date. Don't feed the troll.

+1. send the troll back to live under his bridge.

Pretty sure we aren't going bankrupt considering we got profit sharing checks a few months back...

Hey, "Johnso29", I see you have a new avatar and no D-C-9asaur...upgrade recently?...if so, congrats!

Thanks. I was re-instated to the 320, and head to training in a few weeks. :)

Profit sharing has nothing to do with whether or not XJ will file for bankruptcy. If Delta just stops giving them money.....XJ is bankrupt. Thats what happened when XJ was owned by MAIR. Northwest filed for bankrupcy and defaulted a $25 million payment to XJ. XJ was making money right up until the point where NW stopped paying them.

That would be the case if DAL was losing money, but they just bought some more Maddogs and could possibly give JAL a billion dollars...don't think they are hurting on cash...face it none of your flambait makes sense...rumors are started everyday from people that spout what they want to believe...

this was prior to NWA buying Mesaba so it is a moot point