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IlliniPilot99 02-09-2010 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by ohboyeightyone (Post 761011)
Thanks for the info!..what's passing for the ATP..I really don't feel like going through that book again!..suggest any free ATP prep software?..or even some cheap test prep software?

Thanks!

shepardair.com...or either the Gleim or ASA

I used the Gleim and got a 91 after bout 10 hours of half ass studying

nwa757 02-09-2010 02:13 PM

I can't figure out why people are foaming at the mouth to work at the sweatshop Colgan. Shame on you for wanting to join one of the biggest undercutters in the profession. I was furloughed and whipsawed out of my last regional job by Colgan, and I guess it just doesn't stop as long as Colgan has a stack of resumes on his desk with pilots just waiting to undercut others.

Safety Risks At Regional Airlines Detailed By PBS : NPR

Watch PBS at 9pm tonight if you don't share my view.

FlyJSH 02-09-2010 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by nwa757 (Post 761015)
I can't figure out why people are foaming at the mouth to work at the sweatshop Colgan. Shame on you for wanting to join one of the biggest undercutters in the profession. I was furloughed and whipsawed out of my last regional job by Colgan, and I guess it just doesn't stop as long as Colgan has a stack of resumes on his desk with pilots just waiting to undercut others.

Safety Risks At Regional Airlines Detailed By PBS : NPR

Watch PBS at 9pm tonight if you don't share my view.

You DID fly for Mesa, didn't you?

jdalbrec 02-09-2010 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by ohboyeightyone (Post 761011)
Thanks for the info!..what's passing for the ATP..I really don't feel like going through that book again!..suggest any free ATP prep software?..or even some cheap test prep software?

Thanks!

you need a 70% to pass the FAA ATP written...just like every other..but you need an 80% to pass the technical test they administer, but it's almost completely out of the test prep; you'd either have to have 0 knowledge of 121 or be a complete idiot to fail

ChipChelios 02-09-2010 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by nwa757 (Post 761015)
I can't figure out why people are foaming at the mouth to work at the sweatshop Colgan. Shame on you for wanting to join one of the biggest undercutters in the profession. I was furloughed and whipsawed out of my last regional job by Colgan, and I guess it just doesn't stop as long as Colgan has a stack of resumes on his desk with pilots just waiting to undercut others.

Safety Risks At Regional Airlines Detailed By PBS : NPR

Watch PBS at 9pm tonight if you don't share my view.

If you worked for a Regional, you must have helped undercut and whipsaw someone else out of a job no? How could you...shame on you. You should have withdrawn your resume and let the next guy take the job. :eek:

IlliniPilot99 02-09-2010 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by nwa757 (Post 761015)
I can't figure out why people are foaming at the mouth to work at the sweatshop Colgan. Shame on you for wanting to join one of the biggest undercutters in the profession. I was furloughed and whipsawed out of my last regional job by Colgan, and I guess it just doesn't stop as long as Colgan has a stack of resumes on his desk with pilots just waiting to undercut others.

Safety Risks At Regional Airlines Detailed By PBS : NPR

Watch PBS at 9pm tonight if you don't share my view.


yeah saw it already, bit torrent is glorious!...it's not telling me I didn't know already...I'm using it as a stepping stone, where ever it takes me, its better then the earning whatever i can get flying, living out of my parents basement, with no direction and eating ramen...NONE of that will change if I go to colgan except I will be building time that will help me in the future...

besides this debate is overplayed and nothing new is being said...go start a new thread so I know where too look for posts like this

paxhauler85 02-09-2010 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 761032)
You DID fly for Mesa, didn't you?

He was hired here, but we asked him to leave during new hire class. I doubt he'll tell you why.

He claims to have been hired at XJT shortly there after.

jimistrat 02-09-2010 04:25 PM

Anybody have an interview on the 18th at LGA? Got the call Monday

JoeyMeatballs 02-09-2010 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by jimistrat (Post 761084)
Anybody have an interview on the 18th at LGA? Got the call Monday

Interview is cake, I was the NFP for a guy during his sim check, he balled up the airplane on the ILS..............

He was in my new hire class.........

ohboyeightyone 02-10-2010 03:16 AM


Originally Posted by jimistrat (Post 761084)
Anybody have an interview on the 18th at LGA? Got the call Monday

I was called monday too..but I took Orlando...closer...mines on the 27

ohboyeightyone 02-10-2010 03:18 AM


Originally Posted by nwa757 (Post 761015)
I can't figure out why people are foaming at the mouth to work at the sweatshop Colgan. Shame on you for wanting to join one of the biggest undercutters in the profession. I was furloughed and whipsawed out of my last regional job by Colgan, and I guess it just doesn't stop as long as Colgan has a stack of resumes on his desk with pilots just waiting to undercut others.

Safety Risks At Regional Airlines Detailed By PBS : NPR

Watch PBS at 9pm tonight if you don't share my view.

Hey buddy...to each his own...if you knew where I worked now...Colgan would be compared to like working for Cathay!..Colgan is just a stepping stone..get in..get your PIC time..and move on to better things..

dosbo 02-10-2010 04:12 AM


Originally Posted by ohboyeightyone (Post 761349)
Hey buddy...to each his own...if you knew where I worked now...Colgan would be compared to like working for Cathay!..Colgan is just a stepping stone..get in..get your PIC time..and move on to better things..

What better things are you planning to move to? Gee look at all the majors hiring right now. If you go to Colgan you should plan to be there quite some time. Perhaps you are planning on moving up to Republic or GoJet.:eek:

FL450 02-10-2010 04:17 AM


Originally Posted by dosbo (Post 761365)
What better things are you planning to move to? Gee look at all the majors hiring right now. If you go to Colgan you should plan to be there quite some time. Perhaps you are planning on moving up to Republic or GoJet.:eek:

Or perhaps he thinks outside the box and has corporate connects, he didn't say stepping stone to one particular part of the industry. FWIW he could be flying for Cathay after Colgan... anything is possible!:cool:

PinnacleFO 02-10-2010 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by ohboyeightyone (Post 761349)
Hey buddy...to each his own...if you knew where I worked now...Colgan would be compared to like working for Cathay!..Colgan is just a stepping stone..get in..get your PIC time..and move on to better things..

THESE AIRLINES ARE NO LONGER STEPPING STONES!!!!! STEPPING STONES SHOULD NOT INVOLVE PEOPLES LIVES! These are Airlines, and you will be an airline pilot, go somewhere thats going to treat you like one!

FL450 02-10-2010 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by PinnacleFO (Post 761401)
THESE AIRLINES ARE NO LONGER STEPPING STONES!!!!! STEPPING STONES SHOULD NOT INVOLVE PEOPLES LIVES! These are Airlines, and you will be an airline pilot, go somewhere thats going to treat you like one!

D@mn, Regionals have been downgraded from stepping stones to pebbles, I guess you just skip them on water until they sink...:rolleyes:

dosbo 02-10-2010 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by FL450 (Post 761369)
Or perhaps he thinks outside the box and has corporate connects, he didn't say stepping stone to one particular part of the industry. FWIW he could be flying for Cathay after Colgan... anything is possible!:cool:

If he was thinking outside the box he would be smart enough to investigate where he wants to work and know what the situation is. I doubt all of the current applicants to Colgan have plans other than the airline business. My point is anywhere you go could be your career airline.
Choose carefully. Commuters aka Regionals are no longer stepping stones.

Airborne1 02-10-2010 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by FL450 (Post 761418)
D@mn, Regionals have been downgraded from stepping stones to pebbles, I guess you just skip them on water until they sink...:rolleyes:

Places like Colgan and others have become stepping stones to other stepping stones. Go to Colgan to get some 121 experience and then keep trying to get on with a more reputable regional. Then, if your are one of the lucky ones, move from there onto as major or national. :D

There is, and never will be, a shortage of pilots. Pay and benefits are going to continue to go down, age 65 will play no factor in that.

flyguyniner11 02-10-2010 06:56 AM

does anyone have anything new to add to the discussion? cause everything said on here has been discussed ad nauseum

dosbo 02-10-2010 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by flyguyniner11 (Post 761439)
does anyone have anything new to add to the discussion? cause everything said on here has been discussed ad nauseum

Until people stop going to places like this and value their skills for what they are worth it has not been discussed enough. 121 flying carrying paying (unsuspecting) passengers is not an entry level position or a place to build basic flying skills and experience.

FlyJSH 02-10-2010 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by dosbo (Post 761446)
Until people stop going to places like this and value their skills for what they are worth it has not been discussed enough. 121 flying carrying paying (unsuspecting) passengers is not an entry level position or a place to build basic flying skills and experience.

So true. That is why each of us should support HR 3371.

IlliniPilot99 02-15-2010 09:05 PM

anything new goin on with interviews....I'm bored again...

FL450 02-16-2010 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by IlliniPilot99 (Post 764332)
anything new goin on with interviews....I'm bored again...

groundschool started for those interviewed last month today i think

FL450 02-16-2010 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by dosbo (Post 761446)
Until people stop going to places like this and value their skills for what they are worth it has not been discussed enough. 121 flying carrying paying (unsuspecting) passengers is not an entry level position or a place to build basic flying skills and experience.


Originally Posted by flyguyniner11 (Post 761439)
does anyone have anything new to add to the discussion? cause everything said on here has been discussed ad nauseum

dosbo we get the fact that you don't like colgan this is fine but, the question was does anyone have anything new!

Interviews this weekend as well as the following weekend however this might already be common knowledge.

dosbo 02-16-2010 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by FL450 (Post 764408)
dosbo we get the fact that you don't like colgan this is fine but, the question was does anyone have anything new!

Interviews this weekend as well as the following weekend however this might already be common knowledge.

I don't have a problem with Colgan, I have a problem with the payrates at Colgan for 70 seaters being less than the rates for many 50 seat operators and pilots willing to fly for that. As long as this downward spiral continues job (I no longer refer to this as a career) expectations will continue to fall, outsourcing will continue and the downward wage pressure will continue. Soon you will be flying for free because it is so fun, and Colgan will still think you are too expensive. Good luck on the interview and enjoy your JOB.:)

bravo echo mike 02-16-2010 07:42 AM

New hire class started today. I think with 10 to 15 people

jdalbrec 02-17-2010 03:07 PM

12, in the class that started on the 16th.

anyone else get a class date for the one or two classes coming up?

ohboyeightyone 02-18-2010 11:03 AM

what equipment did they hire in...is it more saab or q?

Doogi 02-18-2010 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by ohboyeightyone (Post 765790)
what equipment did they hire in...is it more saab or q?

All 12 are for the Saab.

ohboyeightyone 02-18-2010 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by Doogi (Post 765793)
All 12 are for the Saab.

have an idea to how long upgrades are?

The Juice 02-18-2010 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by ohboyeightyone (Post 765799)
have an idea to how long upgrades are?

Right now they are 3 years. New hires have a long way to go before they worry about upgrades, nobody knows what Colgan or the industry will look like in years to come so there is not reason to ask what upgrades are as of right now.

Doogi 02-18-2010 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by ohboyeightyone (Post 765799)
have an idea to how long upgrades are?

With extremely minor attrition, some expected new Saab Block hours out of IAD this April, and ramping up for the next 15 Q400's we are obviously doing some upgrading. Currently we are projecting 44 upgrades in 2010 and 42 upgrades in 2011. With a total of 86 upgades this should upgade most of our 07' hires and possibly go into some of our early 08' hires. After that it's completely dependant upon more Block hours/Contracts/Aircraft. In other words, to be fair, I can't give you good estimate of time to upgrade. Please keep in mind this is the airlines so things can and probably will change as time goes on. If you are honestly looking at becoming a part of Colgan please plan accordingly and be ready for the long haul. The days of 10 month upgrades are long gone around here. Good luck!

couchpotato 02-19-2010 04:47 PM

does Colgan require a training contract?

how is their equipment? ... the Saab that is, they have autopilot? or are they crap airplanes?

CubCAPTAIN 02-19-2010 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by couchpotato (Post 766456)
does Colgan require a training contract?

how is their equipment? ... the Saab that is, they have autopilot? or are they crap airplanes?

????????? Pretty judgemental and choosy for someone who appears to not have a job. Yeah they have an autopilot, but since they don't have a magenta line to follow, you might crap your pants in fear....Better brush up on your ADF skills if you want to pass a 340 checkride:rolleyes: Apparently an aircraft that still requires airmanship is below you...

couchpotato 02-19-2010 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by CubCAPTAIN (Post 766481)
????????? Pretty judgemental and choosy for someone who appears to not have a job. Yeah they have an autopilot, but since they don't have a magenta line to follow, you might crap your pants in fear....Better brush up on your ADF skills if you want to pass a 340 checkride:rolleyes: Apparently an aircraft that still requires airmanship is below you...

Hahahahaha neither judgmental nor choosy... after watching a documentary on the Buffalo crash makes me wonder how anyone in their own right mind would want to work in those working conditions. Luckily I have been fortunate enough to be able to avoid those working conditions. Thank you for the answers to my simple questions.

Next time you reply to a post you should be a little more professional and not act like a typical disgruntled airline pilot.

flylikesly 02-19-2010 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by CubCAPTAIN (Post 766481)
????????? Pretty judgemental and choosy for someone who appears to not have a job. Yeah they have an autopilot, but since they don't have a magenta line to follow, you might crap your pants in fear....Better brush up on your ADF skills if you want to pass a 340 checkride:rolleyes: Apparently an aircraft that still requires airmanship is below you...

relax man.... He was just asking some basic questions.

couchpotato 02-19-2010 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by flylikesly (Post 766488)
relax man.... He was just asking some basic questions.

Thanks man, so do they currently have a training contract?.:cool:

CubCAPTAIN 02-19-2010 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by couchpotato (Post 766487)
Hahahahaha neither judgmental nor choosy... after watching a documentary on the Buffalo crash makes me wonder how anyone in their own right mind would want to work in those working conditions. Luckily I have been fortunate enough to be able to avoid those working conditions. Thank you for the answers to my simple questions.

Next time you reply to a post you should be a little more professional and not act like a typical disgruntled airline pilot.

Dude chill, post was just meant to bust your stones............................................ .............................................
,...............I smell a recent Riddle grad :rolleyes: (JOKE)

CubCAPTAIN 02-19-2010 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by couchpotato (Post 766494)
Thanks man, so do they currently have a training contract?.:cool:

Used to be 16k but nobody's ever had to pay it

couchpotato 02-19-2010 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by CubCAPTAIN (Post 766496)
Dude chill, post was just meant to bust your stones............................................ .............................................
,...............I smell a recent Riddle grad :rolleyes: (JOKE)

...several years ago.

FlyJSH 02-20-2010 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by couchpotato (Post 766456)
how is their equipment? ... the Saab that is, they have autopilot? or are they crap airplanes?


Guessing fleet average is about 35-40,000 hours and a few more cycles. They are NOT new. They show their age probably as well an MD-80 or 90. And like the Mad Dogs, the Saabs were built in Foundries, not Factories.

If you are expecting bright, shinny, perfect, new airplanes, the Saab isn't it..... but then neither are 98.9% of all the other planes flying.


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