USAir Express 2683 1/28/10 Gear Issue

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01-29-2010 | 07:51 AM

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mitchellinmn

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I'm confused

Ok my ignorance will be showing here, but a few guys have said fat on gas...why drag the gear around because of too much gas? To get down to max landing weight, couldn't you just ask for a lower altitude and let the engines do their thing and gulp down the fuel faster? Are there tire pressure monitors on the CRJ? I was thinking if they got a high reading maybe a tire got warm after a take off run? Stick it out in the breeze to see if it dropped back to normal? The biggest thing i have flown is a Duchess, so I have no idea.

01-29-2010 | 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mitchellinmn

No tire pressure monitors, only gear bay overtemp loops. If a loop indicates overheat the procedure si to lower the gear to 1) get the overheated and probably burning wheel truck away from the fuselage and 2) use the slipstream to blow out the fire and/or cool the truck.

I would descend first, and try flying faster. The computer can actually estimate how much fuel you will have left if you tell it your altitude and speed. But if that's not enough, you need to get some serious drag out, or plan on holding. You can't use flaps above 15,000 so maybe they were too high for that.

01-29-2010 | 08:26 AM

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True ....FMS will recalculate the fuel with the lower ALT.........Don't forget that use of flaps en-route is prohibited.......However, I am not aware of any restrictions on the Gear other than Speed........I had a friend that got to the destination and had to fly around in a hold fully configured with the trust levers pushed up to burn off excess fuel......was ridiculous....but it worked.

01-29-2010 | 08:45 AM

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It also depends on how much overweight you are, how much more flight time to destination, and when you realize you'll be too heavy. Lower altitudes don't work as well as some people think. We were projected to be 800-1000 overweight on one flight and we dropped down 10,000 ft. from cruise alt. for 30 minutes or so and it still barely made a dent in the fuel. We finally dropped down to 10,000 ft. (from a cruise altitude of FL360) for the last 100+ miles with flaps 9. We dropped the gear early and we were still overweight until 500' on final. This was all in the ERJ, so the -900 will be different but, like I said, altitude doesn't always work.

01-29-2010 | 09:25 AM

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thanks

Thanks for the replies...he did have a little bit of flaps out too...not much but some. I dont know the altitude when all this happened, and with such a short flight, we probably never went too high to begin with. With a gear bay overheat, I assume it must have went out with the gear down, otherwise, wouldnt it be time to declare an emergency and get it on the ground?