Yea and I bet your the guy that mommy and daddy paided for everything. Got hired at 20 years old with no real experience in life and thinks this his s#it don't stink. You have some issues buddy. :rolleyes:

I think you need to find a different profession.

No, they are among the other handful of bottom feeder airlines that do this. This is not routine at most regional airlines. Glad I didn't go there and held out for a respectable job offer.

Please leave the personal attacks off the forums. Thanks.

You're - not "your". OK, maybe we let that one go....

-but-

"Paided" for everything. Really? "Paided" for everything.

What do you have do get a job at that place? Not be currently on parole and be able to put all the blocks through the correct holes in a toddler's shape sorter?

Finally, don't insinuate that Sully & Skiles are in the same league as these others.....you embarrass yourself.

Guys lets look at the big picture here. Instead of badmouthing and fingerpointing at each other we should be uniting together against that As%^&le Cohen. Thats the big problem. When the guy at the head of the industry does not think there is a problem then we will never get anywhere. I don;t think anything uncovered in that special last night DOES not or HAS not happened at your "platinum" regional. I seem to recall another carrier taking off on the wrong runway a few years ago. Didn;t we all learn during instrument training to check the DG against the runway heading? Same way we learned stall recovery? But something happened. The crew made a grave mistake and they paid for it. I can probably name quite a few accidents over the years that have been caused by pilots screwing up bad. The worst one in history (Tenerife) was one example. How many hours do you think those guys had? Quite a few I'd guess. Planes crash because people make mistakes.

Just end the Colgan bashing. I have been there a few years and have never been uncomfrotable with any captain I have flown with. I.m not saying that the incidents described on Frontline last night never happened. But when did they happen? There is definately Old Colgan and New Colgan. If you are on the outside looking in then you cant see the positive changes that have happened over the last two years. We see it and there is no one here that will deny that things are changing for the better and ALL the negative things (pay included) ARE and WILL be dealt with. So either recocnize and support what is going on here or just keep bashing it and become part of the problem. This Cohen guy needs to be dealt with together by all the regional airline pilots he supposedly represents.

No, the company did not go after the FO for "whistle blowing." You think any normal human/pilot who invested as much time energy and money into becoming a pilot would not sue the hell out of a company (and win) if he got fired only for whistle blowing? He was ALREADY about to get fired for being a **** poor pilot and for sexual harassment. He KNEW about the weight and balance issue, NEVER objected to it, WENT ALONG with it. What does that say about his claims that he was concerned for safety. What does that say about him as an FO. He only brought it up after the fact when he decided to use it against the captain.

Seems to me that Colgan is just another fat ugly girl in the bar. The problem is that it's about midnight and she's the only girl in the place. The youngsters have been drinking too much and she's starting to look pretty good... Till morning.

You guys will be trying to chew your arm off...

It might seem like a good idea now but I hope you don't get a disease that can't be cured with a shot of penisillin.

Colgan Sucks. I love how people try to justify it as a good airline. Give me a break. I'm proud to be on furlough and not apply to an unsafe bottom feeder.

make no mistake about it... this is a dirty dirty business... and completion factor payment does nothing but invite danger. while its true that some jobs in this business are more desired than others id being willing to bet that from colgan all the way up through horizon some pretty shady business practices are in place all across the board. keep in mind we're all underpaid and overworked and i'm pretty sure its music to the ears of executives when they log onto this forum and see us b***hing each other out and blaming one another for undercutting and destroying each other’s QOL. Kind of funny when we blame a pilot for working at colgan for slave wages under a turrrible contract when others are making what $3 more an hour and working under an almost equally crappy contract. I think OJ and chucky and the rest should probably receive the majority of the finger pointing.

oh by the way... all of this took place under the watchful eye of the mighty ALPA. greattttttt representation as always.

oh and mr airline union representative guy please spare us all the it would be so much worse without us rhetoric.