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with all the bad publicity....i am almost sure the name "colgan" will soon cease to exist...the whole operation will be blended into pinnacle, in fact the headquarters at manasas has already been closed, and moved down to memphis. i am sure both the pinnacle pilots and colgan pilots know that it is to their interest to merge the seniority list-and avoid the whipsaw.

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Originally Posted by tzadik (Post 761630)

make no mistake about it... this is a dirty dirty business... and completion factor payment does nothing but invite danger. while its true that some jobs in this business are more desired than others id being willing to bet that from colgan all the way up through horizon some pretty shady business practices are in place all across the board. keep in mind we're all underpaid and overworked and i'm pretty sure its music to the ears of executives when they log onto this forum and see us b***hing each other out and blaming one another for undercutting and destroying each other’s QOL. Kind of funny when we blame a pilot for working at colgan for slave wages under a turrrible contract when others are making what $3 more an hour and working under an almost equally crappy contract. I think OJ and chucky and the rest should probably receive the majority of the finger pointing.

oh by the way... all of this took place under the watchful eye of the mighty ALPA. greattttttt representation as always.

oh and mr airline union representative guy please spare us all the it would be so much worse without us rhetoric.

Blame ALPA for how bad an air carrier is?
IIRC ALPA was only recently brought in at COLGAN.
ALPA is not some sort of pie in the sky. ALPA is only good as the membership. Blaming ALPA is not only easy, its counterproductive. It would be like saying America is a crappy country because of the actions of our elected officials.

Work harder and try again later. You have exceeded your predetermined fail level.

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Originally Posted by cal73 (Post 761818)

ahhh mr airline union representative guy... there you are!!!

ya i blame ALPA for how bad an air carrier has become... because we've all heard the words "do it and grieve it" one too many times. they're supposed to be our protection from the inequities of this business. last i checked i didn't have the choice to freely elect ALPA as my representation they just automatically deduct money from my paycheck then let the company freight train us. everyone sings a different tune before they get to washington buddy.

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Originally Posted by minimwage4 (Post 761643)

I almost puked after watching the show yesterday. But I don't for one second feel sorry for those former colgan pilots on that show. Anyone that applies to colgan is equally as guilty for dragging down the industry. Nothing will change there because it can't. I mean if you watched that yesterday and are still in the process of applying, you really have no self respect. God help you.

You said it best. I've said it before and I'll say it again Colgan Mesa and the rest of the bunch should not have a resumes in the inbox.

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Originally Posted by cal73 (Post 761818)

Its all the unions fault. We are weak and get rolled everytime. What other industry gets paid less than they did twenty years ago.

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Originally Posted by paxhauler85 (Post 761689)

He's a mid seniority F/O at American Eagle. Not a flying expert. He's only an expert on having a "holier than thou" attitude.

Wrong; and it's not "holier than thou"... it's contempt.

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Originally Posted by paxhauler85 (Post 761689)

Unfortunately, he's actually right about this.

I usually am...

but on the few occasions I'm not, I'll at least admitt it unlike other folks.

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Originally Posted by iPilot (Post 761755)

Colgan might have a line out the door for jobs right now but we'll see what happens when the industry starts hiring en masse again. Might end up like Mesa where people walk away for other regionals just to get away from such an awful operation. We'll see how they "move the rig" then.

that was the case in 2007... people were going to Colgan to get some time and then go to another regional.
People would fail out of class at regional X and then run to Colgan for a job and they would pick them right up.
Colgan is the bottom of the barrel, the lowest of the low... that being said I think these threads should die...
No matter what people say on here Colgan is gonna have people knocking down there door to work there, and nothing we say on here is gonna change that.

You guys are all pretty mean. We are forever doomed because nobody seems to get that we should stand united instead of against eachother. The next person who speaks badly about a fellow union pilot is gay.

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Originally Posted by Jamers (Post 761895)

Dude, you are soooo getting in trouble for that.....

It is funny...

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Originally Posted by Jamers (Post 761895)

we're all brothers in arms in my mind... i always have and i always will bend over backwards to help a fellow pilot with a jumpseat, first class, or anyway i can... but dude i can't stand the true believers.