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Old 02-10-2010 | 05:43 PM
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Is that airline TRYING to have another accident?

They seem to be doing everything they can to point themselves in that direction...
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Old 02-10-2010 | 05:48 PM
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The limitations at my airline are very similar, and have been for as long as I have been here. We don't factor in gust factors as far as a limitation goes, but that's not to say we won't take it into consideration. Bottom line, if you're not comfortable doing it, then don't.
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Old 02-10-2010 | 06:01 PM
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Just tried to land a 200 on a contaminated rwy with
xwind at 17kts G26. Mu's were at 40. Then a 121 carrier reports ba poor. We go missed because we can't land (sop) with ba reports of poor and xwind greater than 10kts. We Held while 7 crews in a row from every airline landed and reported it poor as well. Couldn't believe it. It was an Ils to about 1sm.
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Old 02-10-2010 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Pinchanickled
So were told in a memo recently issued, from our 9E management, that "Gust's don't matter for cross wind limit."
Screw memos. Also, your apostrophe usage is flawed. "Gust's"?
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Old 02-11-2010 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Pinchanickled
So were told in a memo recently issued, from our 9E management, that "Gust's don't matter for cross wind limit."

CRJ-200 X-Wind limit is 27 knots for a wet or dry runway
CRJ-200 X-Wind limit is 15 knots for a contaminated runway

Example:
Runway 36 Dry or Wet (Grooved rwy)
090/27G45....NEW interpretation is "within limits"
090/28.........NEW interpretation is "not within limits"

Runway 36 contaminated with 1 inch snow:
090/15G30....NEW interpretation is "within limits"
090/16.........NEW interpretation is "not within limits"

How unsafe!!!!!
At Skywest we don't have a crosswind limitation. We are trained to 30KTS and our SOP says that the max demonstrated is 27KTS but is not considered limiting. The Captain makes all landings with over a 20KT crosswind. I've seen Captains land with up to 35KTS crosswind.
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Old 02-11-2010 | 08:26 AM
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SOP is the Captain lands above 20kt crosswinds...but in practice if the other guy can hold his own, he'll usually do it.
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Old 02-11-2010 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Pinchanickled
So were told in a memo recently issued, from our 9E management, that "Gust's don't matter for cross wind limit."
Tell that to Continental...
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Old 02-11-2010 | 08:35 AM
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There is no dry runway x wind limit on the CRJ series. ..only company mandated limits. SKYW routinely lands them in +30 (they have NO LIMIT AT ALL on dry runway Xwind) and I suspect everyone else does too.
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Old 02-11-2010 | 09:19 AM
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At Mesaba all our x-wind limitations are more restrictive than the manufacturer, except the 10 knot tailwind limit.
27 dry, 22 wet and 15 slippery. The dry is even further reduced if you have less than 100 hrs on the plane to 20 Ca and 15 Fo. These are hard limitations, not demonstrated.

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Old 02-11-2010 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by justamushroom
There is no dry runway x wind limit on the CRJ series. ..only company mandated limits. SKYW routinely lands them in +30 (they have NO LIMIT AT ALL on dry runway Xwind) and I suspect everyone else does too.
This sounds .. false?
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