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Old 02-10-2010 | 08:48 AM
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Wow. Not playing the "my airline is better than yours" game, but we have a 3rd X-wind limitation at XJ. It's 27 for dry, 22 for wet and 15 for slippery. These limits are further restrictive if you have less than 100 hours in the plane. It also is so very clear in black and white that we MUST consider gusts as apart of the limitations.

It never ceases to amaze me that your mgmt still thinks you're a bunch of idiots, when perhaps they're ought to look at themselves in the face. How your POI lets your mgmt do some of the stuff they do is incredible. More proof that the operator and FAA are often in bed with each other.
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Old 02-10-2010 | 08:50 AM
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They have to be with some of the things that have gone on here in the past, I will say though the training and operation have gotten a ton better than 5 years ago. Knock on wood.
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Old 02-10-2010 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Pinchanickled
So were told in a memo recently issued, from our 9E management, that "Gust's don't matter for cross wind limit."

CRJ-200 X-Wind limit is 27 knots for a wet or dry runway
CRJ-200 X-Wind limit is 15 knots for a contaminated runway

Example:
Runway 36 Dry or Wet (Grooved rwy)
090/27G45....NEW interpretation is "within limits"
090/28.........NEW interpretation is "not within limits"

Runway 36 contaminated with 1 inch snow:
090/15G30....NEW interpretation is "within limits"
090/16.........NEW interpretation is "not within limits"

How unsafe!!!!!
Not sure how your company is run, but since when does a company memo superceed an FAA approved publication like your AOM and the limitations it provides?
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Old 02-10-2010 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
You bring up a good question. Who do you underwrite?
I ain't never been no good at spellin them big wordz.

Spelling errors have been fixed for cencal.
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Old 02-10-2010 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Mason32
Not sure how your company is run, but since when does a company memo superceed an FAA approved publication like your AOM and the limitations it provides?
Mason, anytime a Pinnacle manager signs his initials to anything he thinks it overrides the feds, whether it be FAA, FMLA, MIL leave etc.
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Old 02-10-2010 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by rustypigeon
I ain't never been no good at spellin them big wordz.

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Thanks man! Now back to the INSANITY of calling a gust factor not part of the limitation....
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Old 02-10-2010 | 10:41 AM
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I'll do it, suit up.
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Old 02-10-2010 | 11:24 AM
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I am actually really impressed that everyone who has responded to this on the company board has said they will still be using the gust factor. I for one would never risk this one.

On another note, one of our guys talked to the local FSDO within an hour of the memo going out. They are looking into it and will get back to him.
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Old 02-10-2010 | 12:49 PM
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Its ok as long as the A/P is operative.
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Old 02-10-2010 | 05:36 PM
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Just a thought but maybe the "gust limit" memo was for dispatchability? At my former airline prior to my furlough airline the gusts were also not considered however at my furloughed airline they were considered.
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