NTSB Recommends monitoring voice recorders
02-25-2010 | 09:53 AM
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I started in on this line of questioning once with one of my female flight instructors. I didn't realize it but she had never seen the movie. Needless to say, when I got to the "Have you ever seen a grown man naked?" question I got a very strange look. haha
02-25-2010 | 12:00 PM
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Does the CVR erase button really work? I always looked at it like the "Panic" button you can put on a computer keyboard; looks good, does nothing.
02-25-2010 | 02:21 PM
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This is pretty stupid. Do they really think they'll catch something if they'll pass this? No more talks of applying to Fedex on final approach. It would be a very long and boring surveillance session for the chief pilots. How about they treat pilots professionally and they'll behave accordingly.
02-25-2010 | 05:40 PM
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Yes, but if someone really, really wants to find out, the information can be recovered just like off an erased cassette tape or magnetic or digital computer memory storage. I doubt an airline or someone would casually go through the expense, but an NTSB accident investigation team would.
If this plan goes through, that button may indeed be disconnected.
If this plan goes through, that button may indeed be disconnected.
03-02-2010 | 01:43 PM
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I can't believe they want to do this. I'm reading a new booked called 'complications' and in this one chapter the writer(a surgeon) was in the OR talking(Q&A stuff with non-procedural stuff) in length with another doctor performing surgery. I'm not sure if they record their surgeries but in any case the doctor didn't mess up at all. This doctor and his colleague's have an incident rate around 1% with hundred(maybe thousands) of surgeries. I know both of the two jobs deal with technical information and procedures but isn't surgery a little just a little bit harder and they are allowed to talk.
03-02-2010 | 01:50 PM
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While this could possibly become a labor-control tool for some managers, there is a big downside for airlines....
"Position and Hold 35"
"Uuh, we just got that nuisance message again"
"We know what it is. Are you OK with writing it up when we get back to base?"
"Yeah, sure. Otherwise we'll lose our flow time, and be here for another hour... or longer if they have to get Mx out here. Everybody will miss their connections"
"Ooops, I forgot they just started that CVR monitoring program. Tell tower we need to exit and return to gate"
"Position and Hold 35"
"Uuh, we just got that nuisance message again"
"We know what it is. Are you OK with writing it up when we get back to base?"
"Yeah, sure. Otherwise we'll lose our flow time, and be here for another hour... or longer if they have to get Mx out here. Everybody will miss their connections"
"Ooops, I forgot they just started that CVR monitoring program. Tell tower we need to exit and return to gate"
03-02-2010 | 02:33 PM
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