NTSB Recommends monitoring voice recorders
02-25-2010, 09:53 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by JetPipeOverht
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02-25-2010, 12:00 PM
#33
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Originally Posted by UpThere
Simple fix to this issue. After every flight... Parking brake -set, CVR erase buttom- push and hold for 5 seconds. Shutdown checklist complete.
Does the CVR erase button really work? I always looked at it like the "Panic" button you can put on a computer keyboard; looks good, does nothing.
02-25-2010, 02:21 PM
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This is pretty stupid. Do they really think they'll catch something if they'll pass this? No more talks of applying to Fedex on final approach. It would be a very long and boring surveillance session for the chief pilots. How about they treat pilots professionally and they'll behave accordingly.
02-25-2010, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Diver Driver
Does the CVR erase button really work?
If this plan goes through, that button may indeed be disconnected.
03-02-2010, 01:43 PM
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I can't believe they want to do this. I'm reading a new booked called 'complications' and in this one chapter the writer(a surgeon) was in the OR talking(Q&A stuff with non-procedural stuff) in length with another doctor performing surgery. I'm not sure if they record their surgeries but in any case the doctor didn't mess up at all. This doctor and his colleague's have an incident rate around 1% with hundred(maybe thousands) of surgeries. I know both of the two jobs deal with technical information and procedures but isn't surgery a little just a little bit harder and they are allowed to talk.
03-02-2010, 01:50 PM
#39
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
While this could possibly become a labor-control tool for some managers, there is a big downside for airlines....
"Position and Hold 35"
"Uuh, we just got that nuisance message again"
"We know what it is. Are you OK with writing it up when we get back to base?"
"Yeah, sure. Otherwise we'll lose our flow time, and be here for another hour... or longer if they have to get Mx out here. Everybody will miss their connections"
"Ooops, I forgot they just started that CVR monitoring program. Tell tower we need to exit and return to gate"
"Position and Hold 35"
"Uuh, we just got that nuisance message again"
"We know what it is. Are you OK with writing it up when we get back to base?"
"Yeah, sure. Otherwise we'll lose our flow time, and be here for another hour... or longer if they have to get Mx out here. Everybody will miss their connections"
"Ooops, I forgot they just started that CVR monitoring program. Tell tower we need to exit and return to gate"
03-02-2010, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
It was my understanding the erase feature DOES NOT erase the last 30 minutes.
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