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hockeypilot44 02-25-2010 06:18 AM

The Republic pilots will NEVER see a substantial raise. Bedford tried to start up Republic during last contract negotiations to whipsaw like Tran States/Gojets and Mesa/Freedom. This is the type of person he is. He parked every single plane on the Midwest operating certificate to get rid of the expensive Midwest pilots. You guys are dreaming if you think Republic is going to become a major airline. He's creating hubs in Denver against United and Southwest and Milwaukee against Airtran, Delta, and Southwest. It's been proven in history that a hub can only support two airlines. This might seem far-fetched to you Republic pilots, but I will not be surprised if Bedford files for bankruptcy before you guys ever see a new contract. I keep getting told by Republic pilots that Bedford is ordering new Airbuses. I highly doubt that given his history. Your first officers top out at $37/hour. No one is upgrading. The feed contracts will be dropped by the mainline partners as they expire. The growth at Republic is gone. I'm not sure why you guys are so optimistic. You must know something that I don't.

TrojanCMH 02-25-2010 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 769164)
in the interim, it'll be interesting to see what happens with their contracts with current mainline carriers who just financed the creation of a major low cost competitor.

Doug Parker on RAH:

YouTube - Doug Parker on RAH

3XLoser 02-25-2010 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by TrojanCMH (Post 769158)
At least the Midwest guys will have some planes to come back to eventually.

Maybe? My recall rights will run out the year before they're delivered.
Just don't let management call these things RJs.

Superpilot92 02-25-2010 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 769168)
The Republic pilots will NEVER see a substantial raise. Bedford tried to start up Republic during last contract negotiations to whipsaw like Tran States/Gojets and Mesa/Freedom. This is the type of person he is. He parked every single plane on the Midwest operating certificate to get rid of the expensive Midwest pilots. You guys are dreaming if you think Republic is going to become a major airline. He's creating hubs in Denver against United and Southwest and Milwaukee against Airtran, Delta, and Southwest. It's been proven in history that a hub can only support two airlines. This might seem far-fetched to you Republic pilots, but I will not be surprised if Bedford files for bankruptcy before you guys ever see a new contract. I keep getting told by Republic pilots that Bedford is ordering new Airbuses. I highly doubt that given his history. Your first officers top out at $37/hour. No one is upgrading. The feed contracts will be dropped by the mainline partners as they expire. The growth at Republic is gone. I'm not sure why you guys are so optimistic. You must know something that I don't.



agreed this will just further the resolve of the competition to keep putting more and more pressure on RAH. .

forgot to bid 02-25-2010 06:27 AM

I guess you can find friends when you're poking one of their competitors in the eye but when you poke all of the competitors in the eye it'll be pretty hard to find a friend.

atp409 02-25-2010 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by TrojanCMH (Post 769158)
At least the Midwest guys will have some planes to come back to eventually. Hopefully they don't defer 30 seats and make the pay the same as the 190.


Within the next few years the midwest guys will be taken care of by companies far more ethical and experienced than Republic. If you work for republic, try not bending over backwards with garbage pay rates just because its a "big jet", or we are all doomed...

SharkyBN584 02-25-2010 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by atp409 (Post 769180)
Within the next few years the midwest guys will be taken care of by companies far more ethical and experienced than Republic. If you work for republic, try not bending over backwards with garbage pay rates just because its a "big jet", or we are all doomed...

I don't know what industry you're in...but we're all doomed no matter what Republic does.

IADBLRJ41 02-25-2010 06:36 AM

Yet another reason to look outside of this industry.

UnlimitedAkro 02-25-2010 06:45 AM

Delta has seen this coming for a while... and as soon as RAH starts self branded flying, Delta will go through the legal process to drop their contract and remove them from all Delta flying due to the conflict of interest clause. Then after Delta drops them, they will muscle them out of the industry. Self branded flying will be the beginning of the end for RAH.

TrojanCMH 02-25-2010 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by atp409 (Post 769180)
Within the next few years the midwest guys will be taken care of by companies far more ethical and experienced than Republic. If you work for republic, try not bending over backwards with garbage pay rates just because its a "big jet", or we are all doomed...

Yeah because before Republic everything was perfect, we were all getting 18 days off a month and making $200K as a second year FO and mainline was hiring a couple thousand pilots a month.

Sure Republic has been the black eye of the industry for the last couple years but the downward spiral that this industry is in started back before Republic even existed. Republic is just a small piece of the crappy 121 puzzle. Now if the pilots at RAH don't unite and demand a decent major contract I'll quit.


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