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Old 03-07-2010 | 08:19 AM
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When I was a controller at ZFW I worked the eastbound departures and the Fokker's were a royal pain. If I remember correctly they climb at 280KIAS. We called them the "moving speed hump in the ATC system." Did take a fam ride in the cockpit from DFW to SDF and from the inside was a very modern and automated aircraft.
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Old 03-07-2010 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
I'd love to see the uniforms. Canadian Tuxedo anyone??
Denim was actually my company's "regional" contract airline until about a month ago. I believe they are shut down now.
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Old 03-08-2010 | 05:37 AM
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The F-28 a lovely airplane? That PoS was a whistling death trap looking for a place to crash.
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Old 03-08-2010 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyWilliams
Got a chuckle out of this. How exactly is it not a regional plane?

Range with 107 passengers and Tay 620s 1323nm, or high gross weight version with Tay 650s 1710nm. (comparison to the CRJ-900: the Long Range model has a maximum take-off weight of 84500 pounds and a range of 1828 nm).


The CRJ-900 may be operated by regional carriers but in my opinion, it is not a regional airplane.
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Old 03-08-2010 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Foxcow
The CRJ-900 may be operated by regional carriers but in my opinion, it is not a regional airplane.

The CRJ-900 that I fly is owned and operated by a regional airline, too. The airline's region just happens to be USA, Europe, and Africa.

I suspect we'd have to first define "regional". SkyWest, for example, flies coast to coast in the USA, and Mexico to Canada. I wouldn't call that "regional". They are a contract airline. ASA, on the other hand, is both regional and contract.

Any airplane that can't fly coast to coast, and over over the big ponds, to me is "regional". The Fokker is regional. A much smaller Gulfstream 550, not so much ;-)
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Old 03-08-2010 | 09:25 AM
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I suspect we'd have to first define "regional".
Excellent point. I know it is a pipe dream but I wish the concept of regional airline did not have to be redefined to accommodate large RJs that replace mainline aircraft.
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Old 03-10-2010 | 07:00 AM
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There is no business for a 100+ passenger plane to fly under a regional flag.
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Old 03-11-2010 | 09:28 AM
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IIRC:

USAIR 3yr FO = $88/hr in 2001.

Enjoyed my 87 hours in it...
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Old 03-11-2010 | 09:56 AM
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"Regional" is nothing but a marketing name with no real definition. What we're looking for is "Outsourced"...

Does this Fokker line have a chance with non-outsourced flying? I doubt it. Does it have a chance with outsourced flying? Probably not either
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Old 03-12-2010 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
I'd love to see the uniforms. Canadian Tuxedo anyone??

http://theenvelope.latimes.com/media...2/34446411.jpg

Denim Air crew.

(yes, i have the maturity of a 12 year old and free time to spare)
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