HELP! Need Colgan Gouge - Quick!!
 

A friend of mine got called last week for a Colgan interview.

He really really really wants the job, as he has been instructing for a couple years now.

Can anyone provide as much possible information about the interview? What to expect, questions, everything!

Thanks Very much!

really?....

Is there not a current gouge on that other website?

so pretty much you want to work for colgan?

Let me have the honor:

"IC_ALL: Flamebait.....thread closed"

Can you breath without the help of a machine and do you have a heart beat? And the most important can you read a metar and white out the parts of it that will keep you from flying?

Not joking.

Not Flamebait.

What's the name of the other website, as mentioned earlier, that has gouge?

Any REAL information would be greatly appreciated.

There's a current gouge in the place where they keep gouges... you're a working pilot... shouldn't you know where that is?

Why is Colgan calling CFIs with no 121 experience when there are many that have flown -8's and jets that need jobs? Really I know many out of work pilots that have applied and haven't got a call.:confused:

Does Colgan have block or better?

Because those CFI's are bright eyed and bushy tailed... They'll take the punishment and say "thank you, may I have another trip" :rolleyes:

"Why do you want to work here?"

"Why didn't you apply to us before?"


It would be much easier to give a believable explanation as a CFI than a furloughed pilot from another regional unfortunately.

Yes, of course.

I am surprised that no one has said, "A pulse".

show up with less then 5 checkride bust and no alcohol on your breath. heartbeat is optional.

willflyforfood.com

Pretty easy to not be a jackass.

Let people make their own mistakes. It's the only way they'll ever learn.

Study for the ATP written. You have to get 40/50 right (80%). I've been working 121 for 5 years, a CA for 2.5, and I studied and missed 3 or 4. 10 guys, including 4 ex-121 guys failed the test and were asked to leave from my group.

No, I didn't take the job.

Thanks for the info. What bases are they offering?

And all you guys that are so smug because you got hired with a "good" regional when you had 400 hours and 25 multi can have a little respect for those of us who didn't get so "lucky". A lot of you guys cracking jokes never had to work at a flight school at all. People like me that are going to the interviews have instructed for several years. After 1100 hours in a Cessna 172 and over 500 hours in light twins, there isn't anything else that can help my career but turbine time. People like me have paid our dues and still have YEARS to wait for ExpressJet, Skywest, ASA, etc. Might as well get some turbine time while I wait. More recip time won't help much once you meet the hours for ATP.

You won't get any hate from me. I feel for you guys.

Thousands of guys/gals have been in your shoes... deal with with it. The rest of us did.

Because a friend of mine who is a FO for NetJets and was also a captain for ATA in the past applied to Colgan and they called him and said that he was "too heavy with experience"...he had 5000+ hours, now, if this doesn't keep you up at night I don't know what will, I will never let my wife and kids get on a colgan flight,,, I had a friend who I instructed with was hired by Colgan about 9 years ago was on a ferry flight to reposition to get the A/C fixed and sure enough the plane was not airworthy as the mechanics said and crashed in the water off of the Cape in the north east... just two pilots onboard...Colgan is trading expiereinced pilot for having unsafe people up there, I know that is bad to say but there are alot of highly tained guys out there...

cjc got burned on the last class of 121 guys because the company wasn't smart enough to have them give up their recall rights. good for the recalled pilots, bad for cjc.

I have a lot of respect for those who earn their way and treat "younger" pilots with dignity and actually help. I don't have any respect for the 300/400 hour wonders that got lucky during a serious hiring boom and never had to do what we have to do to scratch for turbine time BUT STILL SMUGLY SNIPE AT THOSE OF US WHO HAVE WORKED AT FLIGHT SCHOOLS FOR YEARS TO MEET ATP MINS. Between flight instruction and management, I have worked at flight schools since 2001. I want out! I want to fly an airplane and not a desk!!

I started in 2001 also and Im on my 4th airline... I feel for you man, but the airlines are not always the answer. Just food for thought.

Ya... might as well get some turbine time and put more downward pressure on wages on QOL at the airlines. Stick with your CFI job and be patient. I instructed for five years before I got on at a regional. I also worked jobs outside of flying while I instructed to pay the bills. Colgan is a scumbag operation. There's a reason they're calling CFI's and not one of the many furloughed and experienced 121 guys out there right now.

The worst thing you can do is argue with people on this board. In my experience there is little useful info. on the regional forums; just a lot of people that create a false sense of reality. The real world is out there, leave the weirdos like me with our Internet vices alone in here.

You speak the truth, sir! Sometimes I look back and wonder why I ever wanted to get into this industry...

If your talking about the skipper (scott) I knew him too...

To the OP: PM me if you can and I'll try and help you out off the boards as best I can. In the meantime, check willflyforfood or Google Colgan Air interview gouge. There is some information out there to be found.

TO answer the original poster there should be two current gouges on www.willflyforfood.com One of them a friend of mine put up so I know its current because he got the job. As for all the other opinions that you'll find on here, take them with a grain of salt best wishes to your friend and I hope he gets the job. Its good to hear some good news for once!

heres just a thought:

Maybe the problem isn't the minimums being too low or high but the level of maturity and common sense required to differentiate between a job worth your while and spinning your wheels. Bartenders, store managers, cubicle slaves, baristas at starbucks will out earn a Colgan pilot for about three years. Eventually the Colgan pilot will make more but there are a lot of different ways to pay the bills that will earn you a lot more. Who do you want flying your airplane the person too stupid to realize that they are worth more or the guy who cant? Just saying

Please elaborate on this statement

And make sure you can use proper spelling and grammar when you are calling other people stupid. :eek:

being a grammar natzi on an online forum is really cool

Trust me you are better off staying at the flight school for a little while longer than going to Colgan.

who do you want flying your airplane 1) the guy who is very capable of doing the job but realizes that $20,000/yr is a complete joke and decides to do pretty much any other job for more money and more time off or 2) the guy who has no idea what he is getting into or is lacking the intelligence to realize how defeating this job will be working for Colgan.

$20,000 a year with no work rules and little to no benefits.... ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!! This job is SCREAMING for every person that has ever failed a checkride to apply. Anybody with a brain has vacated the premises of the Colgan interviews. They will be serving these applicants coffee as they head out to do their Norfolk turns for days on end out of ewr. They will be making more money, with a retirement match, and be sleeping in their bed every night... believe it.

How many hours did you have when you got your first 121 job, you who stare down your nose at all of us "stupid" people that worked at flight schools for over 7 years and are totally sick of it? I probably supervised your first solo. Let me guess - about 328 total time with 15 multi? Now are you bitter because you got furloughed with low time and since you have no PIC time you can't upgrade for several years?

If you've been working at flight schools for the last 7 years, how is it you missed the big hiring boom?

As for the second part, be careful who you "stare down your nose at" just as you note he has no idea what it is to be in your shoes, you have no idea what it is to be in his.

For the record I enjoyed flight instructing, I'm not sure my two furloughs have really beat having a full time instructing job where I made more money, my own schedule and was home every night. It's hard to understand that though when you haven't done both, big fast airplanes call to pilots...

How is this not flame? Statements against management are one thing, but this was meant to insult an entire pilot group.

Mod note.

This thread is getting off track with the personal attacks starting to go each way. This will cause the thread to be shut down. Everyone stop looking down their noses at everyone else. We do not need to rehash the same arguments that we had for three threads in a row not to long ago starting with the Colgan Hiring threads.

USMCFLYR

Wife, kids, grad school - basically I never thought I could afford to go to the regionals. Actually, I did leave the industry for over two years, and would have had nine years in the industry. I'm just tired of being in management. I want to fly. The money in management isn't that great, and it's worthless if I never get to do anything I like to do and don't have enough money to fly anyway.
I have the flying bug, but only get to fly when someone needs an instructor checkout or a remedial stage check. I work on the business side, and I am tired of it. If I go to the airlines now, I can finish my master's degree while earning turbine time. When I am done with my master's, I can be an Aviation Safety consultant or stay on as a pilot...