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Well, at least you can't reasonably fly 800 hours in 3 months, and no bank (in this new economic environment) is going to sign loans for that kind of money, and granted, rich kids will be more likely to rent their way to 800, but if every 250 costs at least 50 grand (guesstimate for the run'o'the'mill pilot mill), then 150+K and feeding/housing the kids will make anyone that makes less than a million a year think twice.
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When Sen. Wellstone's plane crashed that was that 135 king air into icing with a seasoned crew. does anyone know if anything happened with 135 after that?
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Originally Posted by flynwmn
(Post 778645)
When Sen. Wellstone's plane crashed that was that 135 king air into icing with a seasoned crew. does anyone know if anything happened with 135 after that?
Paul Wellstone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (paragraph titled Death) USMCFLYR |
This is the sort of thing we get when congress gets involved. If the term "multipilot environment" means experience in multipilot airplanes, I agree this would be great for the pay for training outfits; there simply are not enough ways to get that experience outside of that, by far most 135s are single-pilot.
What probably will end up happening is schools like ATP and the colleges will get some kind of certification for training in a multi-pilot environment with light twins. The only way this could be good is if the airlines would have to pay for some kind of specialized training program, but we know that is not going to happen. |
Originally Posted by Aztec1
(Post 778653)
This is the sort of thing we get when congress gets involved. If the term "multipilot environment" means experience in multipilot airplanes, I agree this would be great for the pay for training outfits; there simply are not enough ways to get that experience outside of that, by far most 135s are single-pilot.
What probably will end up happening is schools like ATP and the colleges will get some kind of certification for training in a multi-pilot environment with light twins. The only way this could be good is if the airlines would have to pay for some kind of specialized training program, but we know that is not going to happen. |
Originally Posted by Whacker77
(Post 778642)
Also, isn't this compromise just setting the 135 world up as the next area for a major problem? Are the members of Congress going to scream and shout about poor training when the inevitable accident occurs with a 600 hour SIC pilot at the controls of a King Air? It certainly seems to me they are sloughing off this problem on the 135 providers because they are used by significantly less passengers.
At that point, I'd be much more apt to tell regionals to go stuff it if they don't want me bringing that experience to the table. Their loss. |
Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
(Post 778637)
Or the pilots who cut their teeth and made their mark in the single seat fighter/attack world? :rolleyes: I don't have any experience in a true Multi-crewed aircraft unless instructing to a single seat mentality counts, but I'm sure that I can easily adapt to such an environment. Heck - plenty of others have before me!
No....I personally think this bill ended up going the wrong way. Just requiring an ATP for a P121 carrier position would have been an easy solution in my opinion; but a compromise is a compromise is a compromise. USMCFLYR
Originally Posted by aviatorhi
(Post 778655)
Or it will push the "low paying" 15/hour jobs down to a Cape Air type environment (Cape Air=Good Company don't get me wrong here), but that's where someone should be starting, right seat of a light twin (402 to 1900 type airplane) with someone vastly more experienced in the left seat to show them the ropes.
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Originally Posted by Diver Driver
(Post 778638)
Just got married, got laid off from an IT job and now am a cashier at a local store to make ends meet. :(
Sorry to hear about your IT job. Let's hope the economy will start to turn around soon. |
This 800 hour thing is just putting lipstick on a pig IMO. The regional airlines will just hire 800 hour pilots and add a couple sims to the beginning of the training process that fulfill the multicrew/Icing requirement on the books then enter the candidate into the normal training process a week later. No change and business as usual, just an 800 hour wonder instead of a 300 hour wonder. Remember back in the 90's you still needed 1500+- to even be looked at so we are still well below what it used to be.
Personally I still believe that the ATP minimum requirement would be the best way to go instead of all this eyewash with 800 plus this and that documented training. Anyone can write something into a training folder, but what has the kid really done professionally prior to getting that first jet job is what is important IMO. The ATP would show that better. |
Just remember folks, bills in Congress don't get passed because they make sense. They get passed to further the careers of the lawmakers. This is being done to pacify the public who know little about the subject. They know that by the time any significant hiring will need to take place they can and will quietly make subtle changes to this long after it is out of the public eye.
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