Lower mins are coming...? They need 700 MORE next year. Where will they come from?

Back in June When I interviewed there were close to 30 people.

In talking to my friends that interviewed recently the average per group was around 12. So it sounds as though they are starting to run out.

10/10 Class Breakdown:

EMB:
10 JFK
8 LGA
8 ORD
CRJ:
4 ORD
ATR:
2 SJU

Where did you see that they need 700 next year?

When I interviewed a year ago, there were only 6 or 7 of us interviewed.

There was 10 at my interview 3 weeks ago, not sure how many got hired.

It's been stated at all the recent job fairs and to new-hires. Also on Eagle Lounge.

Wow, slim pick'ns for bases. I start class October 24th. I hope DFW opens up by then.

If you compare todays with weeks prior you'll notice a general flip flop between emphasis. Aug 1st had lots of DFW and no ORD. July 4th had lots of ORD and very little DFW.

They have been telling interview classes this all year... 7-800 next year estimated....

Everything depend in pilot movement. If there are a bunch of people from DFW moving from FO to CA then will be more DFW. Also every couple of days pilots moves from a base to another according with the flow plans.

Thanks Stryker. It surprised me though as I don't see where the need for so many pilots. Even when the next 200+ go to AA the 824 will leave at a 1:1 with new hires off the street for AA. Add to that the parking of the ATR's and AMR's burning desire to diversify their regional feed and it would seem 700 is a bit much.

But what the heck do I know. I'm clearly not seeing the picture.

I bet those projections change.

How long before "travel companion" benefits kick in?

Are they still sending you home during different training phases?

Thank you!

Companion travel should be in the system Friday when you do HR at the end of Indoc.
Jets still go home for a week after indoc. I know that sim and IOE are getting backed for the ERJ. I was at sim in July and I'm still trying to finish up IOE in October.

Thanks for the info!

When did you do your checkride? If you go more than three months from check ride to line check you get to do your checkride again.

Incorrect...you have 3 months to get 100hrs in the airplane. If not you have to go back for a checkride.

You have to include retiring people and moving to other companies. Ex: Fedex, JetBlue, etc...

Consolidation of Knowledge ...120 days (4 months )from date you passed your SIC type ride .I believe a line check after being signed off by a check airman instead of going back to sim will suffice...most airlines will not let you get that far and will assign you flying to save $


Sec. 121.434 — Operating experience, operating cycles, and consolidation of knowledge and skills.
(g) Except as provided in paragraph (h) of this section, pilot in command and second in command crewmembers must each acquire at least 100 hours of line operating flight time for consolidation of knowledge and skills (including operating experience required under paragraph (c) of this section) within 120 days after the satisfactory completion of:
(1) Any part of the flight maneuvers and procedures portion of either an airline transport pilot certificate with type rating practical test or an additional type rating practical test, or

(2) A §121.441 proficiency check.

When you get hired by eagle and you are under the 800/100, do you get a eagle class date as well as the RJ class ATP? Or do they wait until you pass the course to give you a class date?

They wait until you pass the RJ class, then ATP will advertise on their website that Eagle hired you right after you completed the RJ course... Losers, I hate corporate America.

Did you interview yet?

You need to do a little history lesson of how AMR/AA/AE operate, how they have negotiated in the past, and the games they play....

Your MEC did the right thing... for a change.

You guys are actually in a much better position than most in the industry.

The 1st email they sent out about this seemed to imply that the MEC was giving up on negotiations, but in the last few days I've heard it's the opposite. Which one is it?

The MEC rejected the TA which means all negotiations broke down. That doesn't mean that all parties can't come together again and start negotiations back up. AMR will need a new proposal this time...

The sky is not falling folks. Eagle is in a very good position right now. AMR knows it can't replace all of Eagle's flying which is why they were trying to lock us in to that 8 year "deal". They want to have their cake and eat it to.

Luckily the MEC threw it back at them and said NO. The best thing for us now is to wait until 2013 to negotiate a new contract. By that point AMR and other airlines will not have any leverage to strong-arm pilots the way they do now.

They realize this which was the whole reason they attempted to shove this TA down our throats so quickly.

Anyone know how long before you can hold a line in SJU? How's life in SJU? (Yes, I used to search function. Read quite a bit but most of the posts seem to be a couple years old). Does anyone have any suggestions on weather it would be worth it too move there? If so what are some good areas to move to?

So who all is in the 24th class?

Only ATR, which is projected to begin being parked since they are old. Most people avoid it though so its a short RSV time. 5 months or less right now, but could change due to shrinking. NY isnt the easiest commute from SJU if you go for the mainland.

Any idea on how they are going to cover the routes in the islands once all the ATR's are parked? What's the timescale before they are all parked anyways?

ya jetblue and colgan

There are only about 3 airports that AMR absolutely needs the ATR for.
Beef Island, Key West and Nevis under 5K ft runway
Dominica, well just youtube landings in this place.

AMR has moved away from SJU and is doing allot of the flying with the 737 and 757 out of MIA (make sense, why concert in San Juan when you can go direct). The Bahamas are not economical on a Jet. You will see AMR continue to fly a Turbo Prop, probably the ATR 72-600. APA and AA are close to a contract, once this has been signed you will see a better picture on what will happen with Eagle. As of right now the older ATRs will be parked (we are in slow season), but AMR can implement the new ATR overnight since it only requires transition training that is just a few days worth of training. Similar to what we do now, train on the 72-212 and train differences on the 72-212A (-500). The main change will be the avionics and that can be done with CBT and very little hands on. The ATR can carry almost double it's weight while burning 1,600 lbs an hr. In short trips there is no airplane that can compete with it. So we have to wait and see what happens on the American Contract, then we can see where things might go...

Cough, cough... One List... A guy can only wish...

The Q400 is not the most practical airplane for hot weather or short runways. As of right now the Q400 can't be flown for AMR, unless is done by AA.

As far as Jet Blue, I believe they are a stop gap in the Caribbean, I am not sure how economical the EJET is on short flights. St Thomas and St Croix as well as other, they are doing those flights out of SJU while AMR is doing them out of MIA on a 737. Time will tell, But AMR is just getting out of San Juan because the Caribbean has improved most of their airports and larger equipment can be flown into these islands.

Ill be there!

2 out of 3 ain't bad. EYW has been (Pan Am), and us currently serviced by mainline jets at other carriers. FWIW

I would love to see AMR do MIA-EYW in a 737, how many seats do you think they have to leave open to be able to get out of EYW. Ask the other that do it, I think they do it on the smaller 737 that AMR doesn't have. I don't know how a 737-800 would do there, but I see them use allot of runway in MIA and DFW. I believe they are converting all the 737 to 160 PAX and this should complicate the matter.

Well, I'll give you DL's 737s out of ATL..but the weight problems you'd have out of MIA would be interesting for such a short route. (max landing + burn allll the time)

I'm starting then and I hope DFW opens up by then.

For those of you who have been or are currently going to AE class, I'm wondering if its worth it to drive to DFW for training just to have my own transportation rather than relying on the hotel shuttle. I'm in Cali so it'll be a full day of driving for me.

Having a vehicle is nice but to drive all the way from Cali? What some people did in our class was rent a car, they are pretty cheap to do so and if you split it with a few class mates.

Otherwise, the shuttle there is fairly accommodating, but the few times I went out in the other peoples cars was a blessing. It's nice to see something other than the route to the training academy.

I'm interested in applying (to multiple regionals) but had a quick question. I'm finishing up college - graduating in March. Is it too early to apply for a job? Would they hire and wait to start training until then? Kind of a broad question I realize. If anybody knows if they (or any other regional) does this kind of thing I would be interested.