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G5inmind 10-12-2011 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1068249)
Did you interview yet?

nah one week away

G5inmind 10-12-2011 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by brianu16 (Post 1068758)
I'm interested in applying (to multiple regionals) but had a quick question. I'm finishing up college - graduating in March. Is it too early to apply for a job? Would they hire and wait to start training until then? Kind of a broad question I realize. If anybody knows if they (or any other regional) does this kind of thing I would be interested.

Well I work with guy at a flight scool and he got hired by PSA.(interviewed a week ago) And after he graduates in the fall he will have a class in Jan or Feb. So I would apply.

dhr21 10-13-2011 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1068247)
They wait until you pass the RJ class, then ATP will advertise on their website that Eagle hired you right after you completed the RJ course... Losers, I hate corporate America.

so once you are done with class at ATP, do you know immediately about a class date or do you have to wait a while for that also? and will eagle call you before then after you have passed the review board?

RomeoSierra 10-13-2011 07:26 AM

Are the ATRs being parked? I thought the leasing company was taking them back to lease to some one else.

What 10-13-2011 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by dhr21 (Post 1068898)
so once you are done with class at ATP, do you know immediately about a class date or do you have to wait a while for that also? and will eagle call you before then after you have passed the review board?

I am not 100% certain on the hiring process with the low time. My understudying is that you will interview then pass the review board (they have been doing fairly quickly, 2 weeks or less) then you attend the RJ course and finally given a class date. The process can take about 2 months.

What 10-13-2011 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by RomeoSierra (Post 1068907)
Are the ATRs being parked? I thought the leasing company was taking them back to lease to some one else.

Rumors, Rumors & more Rumors. ATRs have been parked (3 of them so far). The ATR flying has decreases as more flying is shifted out of San Juan (Eagle ATR) to Miami (AA 737). Miami ERJ base is up and running so some of the ATR flying out of MIA has decreased as well. We are in the slow time of the year and some of the ATRs are approaching heavy checks and the age of the airplanes will lead to them being parked. AMR is painting the airframes with the most life left, so you will see them fly a bit more.

snippercr 10-13-2011 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1068913)
I am not 100% certain on the hiring process with the low time. My understudying is that you will interview then pass the review board (they have been doing fairly quickly, 2 weeks or less) then you attend the RJ course and finally given a class date. The process can take about 2 months.

It's actually up to the applicant to get their paperwork back on time. I interviewed on a monday and heard that friday. I only had 1 PRIA source, my current employee and she faxed it back the following morning. Checked with LC on Wednesday to see if I needed anything else and she said I was good for captains review board.

I joked that friday thinking I might hear back from eagle, and I checked my phone to see I had a missed call. Was told I passed review!

So what I tell everyone - get your paperwork done ASAP. Hound your previous employers to make sure they go quick. Although some places, specifically shady ones or where people have burned bridges, will wait the full 30 days.

What 10-13-2011 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1068939)
It's actually up to the applicant to get their paperwork back on time. I interviewed on a monday and heard that friday. I only had 1 PRIA source, my current employee and she faxed it back the following morning. Checked with LC on Wednesday to see if I needed anything else and she said I was good for captains review board.

I joked that friday thinking I might hear back from eagle, and I checked my phone to see I had a missed call. Was told I passed review!

So what I tell everyone - get your paperwork done ASAP. Hound your previous employers to make sure they go quick. Although some places, specifically shady ones or where people have burned bridges, will wait the full 30 days.

Again, why I said that they have been turning it around in about 2 weeks or less. But with the Holiday season fast approaching and guys with low times having to attend the RJ course, the whole process could take about 2 months.

RomeoSierra 10-13-2011 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1068918)
Rumors, Rumors & more Rumors. ATRs have been parked (3 of them so far). The ATR flying has decreases as more flying is shifted out of San Juan (Eagle ATR) to Miami (AA 737). Miami ERJ base is up and running so some of the ATR flying out of MIA has decreased as well. We are in the slow time of the year and some of the ATRs are approaching heavy checks and the age of the airplanes will lead to them being parked. AMR is painting the airframes with the most life left, so you will see them fly a bit more.

Miami ATR is rumored to decrease by a couple lines. That's what's being rumored around the crew room. I personally think the Miami embraer base is kind of a dumb idea. All the lines leave the Miami system. Might as well be based in Chicago or New York. The embraer can't pick up the ATR on some routes do to the over water ops. and T/O performance. Will see what the future holds for Miami.

Wingtips 10-13-2011 12:45 PM

your joking about MIA trips for EMJ right?? There are a boat ton of trips to/from mia, most are 2+ hours.

RomeoSierra 10-13-2011 01:27 PM

There a some turns like pit, cle, ind, clt, and a few more. They are long but most of them are do one turn then go to Chicago for the rest of the 4 day. Just seems like there isn't much flying that stays in the Miami system.

Da Magic 10-13-2011 01:40 PM

Miami base wont be gone for atleast 5 years. Management is too stubborn to know if something doesn't work, look at jfk emj base (im not say that the mia emj base isnt doing good though)

In2theBlue 10-13-2011 03:08 PM

I prefer to get the mia/emj class. at 23 years old, what do you think my chances of getting that are in the next class?:confused:

RomeoSierra 10-13-2011 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by In2theBlue (Post 1069180)
I prefer to get the mia/emj class. at 23 years old, what do you think my chances of getting that are in the next class?:confused:

Read the other post people make asking the same question and you will have your answer.

What 10-13-2011 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by In2theBlue (Post 1069180)
I prefer to get the mia/emj class. at 23 years old, what do you think my chances of getting that are in the next class?:confused:

See you in San Juan!!!

Wingtips 10-13-2011 03:58 PM

you will prol get it

snippercr 10-13-2011 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by In2theBlue (Post 1069180)
I prefer to get the mia/emj class. at 23 years old, what do you think my chances of getting that are in the next class?:confused:

I have a feeling classes are getting younger and younger. I was a August class and 23 was enough to send you ATR/SJU. However now it probably is enough to get you on a jet which means maybe MIA not right off the bat, but should get it if the vacancy bid ever comes around (seems less and less likely each day).

FranksNBeans 10-13-2011 06:02 PM

There is no way to know what the base/equip slots will be for each new class. Hope for the best; plan for the worst.

Wingtips 10-13-2011 06:45 PM

franks right on, however ATR is going to keep shrinking, and SJU is the main part of that shrinkage. Therefore your odds of ATR SJU are becoming next to none. The age of new hires is shrinking, so 23 is 2 years above 21, thus in your favor. Also, MIA EMJ has been super junior in classes. I think ATR MIA or EMJ MIA are great options at your age.

What 10-14-2011 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by Wingtips (Post 1069289)
franks right on, however ATR is going to keep shrinking, and SJU is the main part of that shrinkage. Therefore your odds of ATR SJU are becoming next to none. The age of new hires is shrinking, so 23 is 2 years above 21, thus in your favor. Also, MIA EMJ has been super junior in classes. I think ATR MIA or EMJ MIA are great options at your age.

Come play on the ATR for a year, the flying is great (besides Dallas) you will probably fly a jet the rest of your life. Then after flying the ATR your head will fit in the jet!!!

Wingtips 10-14-2011 06:12 AM

I think the ATR would be awesome to fly

flysooner9 10-14-2011 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by Wingtips (Post 1069425)
I think the ATR would be awesome to fly

Makes life interesting that's forsure.

AA772ER 10-14-2011 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 1069434)
Makes life interesting that's forsure.

+2 - Thats for sure. Hopefully she behaves today...

450knotOffice 10-14-2011 08:34 AM

I loved that airplane when I flew it it the mid 90's. Best turboprop I ever flew. Big, roomy, comfortable and quiet cockpit.

flysooner9 10-14-2011 10:39 AM

Don't know of any other aircraft type that would have me do an enroute return, diversion, and a ground evacuation in the first 4 months of flying it.

What 10-14-2011 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 1069573)
Don't know of any other aircraft type that would have me do an enroute return, diversion, and a ground evacuation in the first 4 months of flying it.

Experience!!! Look at the bright side

lakehouse 10-14-2011 11:26 AM

I am bummed i will never get to fly it

Stryker 10-14-2011 01:16 PM

Same here... I would have loved to pick it in class, but the wife would have divorced me before moving to SJU....Im a cold weather person anyways....

Stryker 10-14-2011 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by jbravo65 (Post 1068749)
For those of you who have been or are currently going to AE class, I'm wondering if its worth it to drive to DFW for training just to have my own transportation rather than relying on the hotel shuttle. I'm in Cali so it'll be a full day of driving for me.

I will tell you from my experience, having a car makes life quite a bit easier. Is it really necessary? No. There are several restaurants right by the hotels and the vans will sometimes take you to others that are a little further away. Also there will be several people in your class that have cars there. I drove from Indiana, but I have family and friends down in DFW so having the car was important to me. If I had to do it over again, I probably wouldnt have taken it....

lakehouse 10-14-2011 03:54 PM

I dont like the hotel we get put in. I got put at the park inn, which rocks, but is only used when the school house is packed. I then got moved to the normal hotel, and it was terrible after being at the park.

The people at the normal hotel are jerks about taking you places, and the times they pick you up at the school house after normal hours suck. The park inn is really awesome, I wish we would use it as the main hotel.

Machwon 10-14-2011 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1069722)
I dont like the hotel we get put in. I got put at the park inn, which rocks, but is only used when the school house is packed. I then got moved to the normal hotel, and it was terrible after being at the park.

The people at the normal hotel are jerks about taking you places, and the times they pick you up at the school house after normal hours suck. The park inn is really awesome, I wish we would use it as the main hotel.


Wow really? Please don't preach this when you start flying the line. You might start ****ing off some guys. Go spend a week at the Ball Park or the Admiral. Then tell us your real feelings on where you are being put up in free of charge.

DayTripper12 10-14-2011 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1069722)
I dont like the hotel we get put in. I got put at the park inn, which rocks, but is only used when the school house is packed. I then got moved to the normal hotel, and it was terrible after being at the park.

The people at the normal hotel are jerks about taking you places, and the times they pick you up at the school house after normal hours suck. The park inn is really awesome, I wish we would use it as the main hotel.

Yea just be glad you didnt have to stay at The Admiral, where we used to. That place is the roach hotel.

What 10-14-2011 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by DayTripper12 (Post 1069788)
Yea just be glad you didnt have to stay at The Admiral, where we used to. That place is the roach hotel.

Was the roach hotel, I though it was condemned right after Eagle left there. And how can you complain about 2 brand new hotels, with allot of restaurant options nearby. I guess you can go to GoJet and then you can pick your hotel!

lakehouse 10-14-2011 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1069792)
Was the roach hotel, I though it was condemned right after Eagle left there. And how can you complain about 2 brand new hotels, with allot of restaurant options nearby. I guess you can go to GoJet and then you can pick your hotel!

What is near by the normal hotel?? A taco place? I do share on the line how I feel, and tell people to try and get the park inn when things are busy. The park inn has like 6 good places to eat that are cheap, a walmart, and a van that does not jerk you around.

Its not about how bad it has been, or could be, its about what its like now. The hotel management treats everyone crummy at the normal hotel, esp in regards to the van. The van frequently dropped you off places to get food then took an hour to pick you back up. It stinks, you just need to go somewhere that treats you much better to have a comparison. I don't doubt that admiral was much worst. However there are much much better options in the area.

lakehouse 10-14-2011 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by Machwon (Post 1069781)
Wow really? Please don't preach this when you start flying the line. You might start ****ing off some guys. Go spend a week at the Ball Park or the Admiral. Then tell us your real feelings on where you are being put up in free of charge.

I still don't get this. I have been on the line, and captains tell me how terrible the admiral was, but also dont really like the hotel we use now. Some have also been in the Park this year and wish it was our hotel, because it is much better. Park has free hot breakfast buffet, with bacon, eggs, home fries etc. One free drink each night, and a managers night one night a week with free dinner and open bar a few hours. And a shuttle that takes you places without a hard time or hour long wait to be pick up. Best of all they take you to the AIRPORT!! Imagine that!! A hotel full a pilots that takes you to the AIRPORT!!

DayTripper12 10-14-2011 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1069796)
What is near by the normal hotel?? A taco place? I do share on the line how I feel, and tell people to try and get the park inn when things are busy. The park inn has like 6 good places to eat that are cheap, a walmart, and a van that does not jerk you around.

Its not about how bad it has been, or could be, its about what its like now. The hotel management treats everyone crummy at the normal hotel, esp in regards to the van. The van frequently dropped you off places to get food then took an hour to pick you back up. It stinks, you just need to go somewhere that treats you much better to have a comparison. I don't doubt that admiral was much worst. However there are much much better options in the area.

I got my car broke into and the gas station across the street got robbed while staying at the admiral. There was no breakfeast and there was a bar downstairs that had a cougars night, which only seemed to bring in hookers... yea, it was worse.

lakehouse 10-14-2011 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by DayTripper12 (Post 1069799)
I got my car broke into and the gas station across the street got robbed while staying at the admiral. There was no breakfeast and there was a bar downstairs that had a cougars night, which only seemed to bring in hookers... yea, it was worse.

Dude!! A hotel with hookers!! IT was worst???


JK, but seriously, I did NOT say the admiral was better, it def was worst. My point was compared to the park inn, the hotel we use still blows.

lakehouse 10-14-2011 07:12 PM

All im trying to say is its really sweet when you get to stay at the park inn

airborne42 10-15-2011 12:45 PM

hey everybody. just a couple of quick questions.

1. any idea as to how the hiring plan at eagle looks for 2012?
2. if juniors bases are jfk and ord, then how long can new hires plan on being on reserve?
3. how much do reserves fly on average every month? if you want to fly more to make some more money, are you able to do that and have the option to do so?
4. how much extra would you be able to make in the above case to help your take home pay?
5. is commuting an options at those 2 bases? if so, then would I still need a crashpad? or if i make the move, then is a one bedroom apt affordable at the existing pay?
6. my chances with having 1000tt and 700 multi all 121 flying ATR 42?

thanks a lot. appreciate the help!

N927EV 10-15-2011 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by airborne42 (Post 1070150)
hey everybody. just a couple of quick questions.

1. any idea as to how the hiring plan at eagle looks for 2012?
Last I heard, 700+ in 2012 due to flowthroughs.
2. if juniors bases are jfk and ord, then how long can new hires plan on being on reserve?
Can't answer that for certain, but I'd say ORD would maybe about 6mos. depending on the AA flowthrough movement. I think JFK is pretty stagnant, but with AA flowthroughs going through, it may end up being the same amount of time. Maybe the jet guys can shed more light on this.
3. how much do reserves fly on average every month? if you want to fly more to make some more money, are you able to do that and have the option to do so?
On the ATR I flew 12hrs one month. Opposite on the EMJ from what I understand. You can pick up open time on days off and as much as you want as long as you keep to 8 hard days off.
4. how much extra would you be able to make in the above case to help your take home pay?
Depends how much OT you pick up. I usually pick up 10-15hrs OT a month on the ATR.
5. is commuting an options at those 2 bases? if so, then would I still need a crashpad? or if i make the move, then is a one bedroom apt affordable at the existing pay?
Where are you commuting from? ORD is probably an easier commute and has a plethora of crashpads. As far as the ORD apt question, I believe someone asked that previously in this thread.
6. my chances with having 1000tt and 700 multi all 121 flying ATR 42?
I'd say pretty good as long as you do well on the interview. A lot of people don't realize that the sim is graded per ATP P.T.S. I had a friend sent home after the sim for not meeting the standards. And it's in a baron frasca sim.
thanks a lot. appreciate the help!




Just curious, who are you flying ATR-42s for now? A FedEx feeder?


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