Please get off your high horse....o great omnipitent old man...

 

Ah Slapphappy's here, now the party can really get going.

 

hahahaha. your consitant hatred and bitterness makes you lose all credibility. Congrats on offically making my ignore list. Fail before Mesa? That comment alone shows you'll say anything to stir the pot.

Anyway lets get back to the original thread topic before it was hjacked by our friend slappy. Its nothing personal and we would never wish anything bad directly at another pilot group, but if Republic's business model succeeds all of our carrers greatly suffer. Until you guys get a payscale in the vicinity of Jetblue, we HAVE to hope your company fails (not you guys as pilots, but your company). We have to hope for this for the sake of the future of our families, incomes, carrier asperations, ect. Sorry to burst your bubble guys, but with your current pay to fly 99 seat aircraft, theres a pretty good chance most pilots you pass in the airport are praying for your company to fall. Hopefully someday you can all rise up and get a contract that is 50% of what Jetblue has.

 

Here's the part where I remind the APC peanut gallery, AGAIN, that 1. RAH has been in contract negotiations for at least a couple years, 2. in the last 12 months their company has bought what, 4 airlines that will require a SLI, complicating the matters of representation and contract expectations, 3. its ridiculous to compare JBLU wages established 6 months ago with wages set in a contract ratified in OCTOBER 2003 (which for the CA seat are higher than AWAC had in their Oct2003 contract for the 100-seat B146, yes their FO pay blows), and finally and most importantly, 4. DON'T YOU PEOPLE THINK RAH PILOTS WANT E190 PAY IN THE VICINITY OF JETBLUE?

Its not my intent to pick on JetBlast7 directly, but posts like his make me ashamed to be peers with the younger "me" generation of regional airline pilots that is seemingly too ignorant, naive, stupid, or all of the above to understand the pace & reality of airline collective bargaining, and how 'we' as an industry got to where we are now...

/end rant
//my lawn, get off it, etc...

 

You are right. I don't take much stock in actual cash on hand. Airlines have so many different means to slide money around there's no telling where that cash came from. Look at how United boosted their funds.

While I won't pretend to see what the future holds I do think it's interesting how in a couple years of airlines loosing billions those expect RAH to simply fail so quickly. Hopefully the company will see an increase in current aircraft usage on the fixed fee side to support the branded.

 

I don't agree with that. JetBlast7 is correct. RAH represents a danger to the industry which must fail. The 2003 contract was signed with future 99 seat expansions in mind so the "we didn't know" is not valid. I think everyone, including RAH pilots know that they won't be getting anything close to what Jetblue has. I think you are the one that is naive if you think otherwise. I'm going to venture to say that the majority don't care either. And the conduct on these boards as well in real life only affirms the reputation of post merger RAH pilots.

 

hahah, this is awesome, and partly truthful .

I do find it slightly annoying how you are is not banned, yet I still, after 3 years can't log into my SAABaroowski account....

Blaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssshhhphhhhhhaaaammmmmmmmey

 

See, this is where you lose me. I think it is some Republic pilots who have been acting ignorant, naive, and stupid as you put it. It’s nice that you are in contract negotiations but as of right now your pay stands and the fact that you are even willing to fly a SINGLE FLIGHT in a 190 for those pay rates is appalling. 30 years ago the operation would not have started up until the pay issue was fixed. Unfortunately this is no longer the world or industry we live in.

Come on guys, now that they know you'll fly these things for $35 or less an hour, do you REALLY think you'll negotiate anything CLOSE to mainline wages? The whole purpose/way of thinking behind your business model is flying these routes at a lower operating cost. Midwest and Frontier both already showed that they can't do it for mainline wages and be profitable, yet you think you can move in with 190's and negotiate $100 an hour and turn a profit? Unless you raise ticket prices to a point that would put you out of business anyway, this business model won't work the way BB wants it to. The only hope this business has of being profitable (without raising ticket prices) is for you guys to make a fraction of what mainline pay was and BB knows it. This is why we have to hope for a colossal failure.

 

They won't have to. As of right now the operation will fail. The only question is how much will the shareholders allow for money to be burned before they say no more to the Reverend. We all know Southwest and company have made Republic their special project because they represent a real threat with their cheap operation.

 

Jet Blue operates as a LCC on the same equipment and they have good pay rates. Our CASM right now hovers around 8 cents. Flight crew costs only accounts for 1 cent of the total 8. Our operating cost per hour on a 190 is around $2500, aside from fuel. I believe the next highest 190 operator is Airways at around $3400/hour. They could give both seats a $50/hour pay bump and it still wouldn't hurt their bottom line. BTW, these rough numbers come from management.