See, no one really knows where they are coming from. I figured with something like that, it would be a lot more defined. I mean the announcement said they were to be part of Atlantic Southeast in June so I guess we'll see this month if/when they show up.

All 4 are coming from QX.

I don't work for ASA, but I heard those CR7s are coming from SkyWest. They are former ASA planes.

Got a source?

I just heard it from my friend who got it off the FAA N-Number registry, he told me the planes are N609SK, N611SK, N613SK, N614SK. Apparently they are all former ASA planes. I thought they were going to come from us at Comair, but I guess not.

Those planes were never re-registered to Skywet after they took them from us. Why pay to re-register them when they're already registered to a wholly owned subsidiary?
The planes we're getting in July are coming from QX.

For the love of baby Jesus....who is "QX"??????????

Horizon Air

Horizon. Why would "SK" registered planes have to have been from ASA ??? That doesn't even make sense.

N821SK is the 35th anniversary SkyWest plane. Wonder if that was at ASA????

You missed the point of me asking that....but forget it.

No letter of intent has been signed but if it does go through then 2 RJ's arrive in July then 2 more in the middle of August....

And next is the continued demise of horizon air. Soon there will be no planes left at all at Horizon, just people that don't know what they are doing.

And it's actually only a total of 40 pilots coming back right now.

56 notices sent out 16 bypassed.

40.

Otherwise the company might actually have to spend some extra money on training two of the original Acey 80 furloughees by running them through the 18+ month inactive training pipeline - which is most costly (obviously) than the guys who have been lucky enough to only be gone for less than 12 months.

Does any know the status of the 2 slots not filled? I have not seen one word mentioned on Ourasa, but that's not saying much considering furloughs have extremely limited access. As far as the extra cost in training, according to conference call information: if you're out <12 months, you'll need - 3 days of ground school, 1 sim, 1 pc, OE as required. If you're out 12-18months, you'll need 2 days of ground, 4 days of gen ops, 2 sims, 1 pc, 1 qloft and 25 hours of OE. >18 months, welcome back to new hire training.

It would seem foolish of the company not to recall the remaining few slots needed, considering even though they need more than the 1st group, it is still considerably less than what will be needed after 08/09/2010

No one seems to be saying much.

On a side note: I am a little curious as to how someone has already managed to finish the training considering class started today

One of the recalls was 'hired' just after being furloughed as a MX pilot - a position he held prior to the furlough anyway. Is that who you meant?

Yep. He was "hired" by mx PRE-furlough. I know him and he couldn't be a nicer guy. I just don't understand why he is on the furlough list when he wasn't a line pilot. How was he technically furloughed in the first place? I'm not trying to put his character into question, I just don't understand the process and I also wonder if it may impede another pilots recall.

Hey Gunga,

I hadn't heard those numbers on training previously, so thanks for posting. I was thinking though, that those time periods are probably based off of the pilot's last pc. I wouldn't think that the feds would care how long you've been on furlough necessarily. More so how long past your pc due month that you went without training. I'd be interested to see if my theory is correct.

It's been over a year since my last PC, it's based on furlough date. Hope that helps!

Those numbers came out on the conference call I think it was or was it an ALPA e-mail. I forgot.

Ditto - he was in my class and I was honestly happy to see him able to provide for his family. But I also think it sets a bad precedent to allow a nonunion pilot take a slot that someone in the union should have filled. Unfortunately, like a lot of areas of our contract, it was allowed!

I thought SK was republic or chitaqua or something. There has been a lot of talk at Eagle about us not actually getting 22 CR7s that we were promised this summer. Maybe they are going to ASA, it would be ops as usual at Eagle, constant let downs.

Yes I'm sure that's what going on, thank-you American.

So what do you Feb 2009 furloughs think of the email SH sent out today?

it's interesting. What kind of movement could we speculate he is mentioning?

They are working on and maybe about to acquire a few more frames. Guesses are from Mesa or Pinnacle. Just a guess on the Pinnacle, but Big D may be about to lean on them to squeeze them in negotiations, just like they did to ASA and we lost a bunch of 70's and all the 90's that were coming to kick us during negotiations. The cryptic line in SH's email said something about we may absorb some flying within the DCI system due to a status change at another carrier. It is important that we show Atlantic Southeast can handle opportunistic flying. So, my guess is that when they find out just how much flying, they will pull the trigger. I have heard the instructors say they have been gearing up to have most - if not all - furloughs back this fall.

Delta could take a bunch of people once they start running classes, plus people will start getting drafted for 'Nam in September.

Seriously! Just imagine if say, 50 Captains go to Delta and another 10 go elsewhere. (Airtran, Jetblue). Now add the 20 Capts leaving for Nam, and there could potentially be 80 Captains leaving by fall. That alone will get everyone back where they were.

Hey Truman, it's nice to see the optimist in you finally coming out. Most of your previous posts had been somewhat grim.

Doubt its pncl. They own their 900s

I keep hearing that Comair is moving to Detroit, but their 70s and 90s are not.

Pinnacle may own its 900s, but this is 200 flying that we're picking up, so it could be Mesa (most likely) or Pinnacle (possible if unlikely). We may never know for sure.

So, what's the over/under on how many recalls are announced this week?

It'll be interesting to see how many notices they send out vs how many they need back. As of now, it doesn't look like anyone took SH's advice and updated their bypass preference online (excluding the 3 already bypassed). Will the 12 pilots who went to GoJet receive a recall notice? How many of them would bypass if offered? I know a few people that have moved on with their lives and will not be accepting a recall. Just my .02, but I'd be surprised to see 50 of the 80 come back 1st round. Judging from the "some" part of his email, maybe 25 pilots needed?

Wow, 12 went to GoJet? Didn't know it was that many. I would think most or all of them hold a line at GJ and wouldn't take recall this round as they'd end up being the plug at ASA, especially with how horrid life has been for reserves--strike that, all pilots at Atlantic Southeast Super Regional Airlines lately. Not worth it.

yes, i believe it was 12, but possibly 11. My memory is hazy on it. Last time I spoke with a few, they were line holders with a decent amount of flexibility with their schedules