ASA recalls 42.
 

We're adding 4 CRJ-700s to the fleet in June. Expect recall notices almost immediately.

Are they added for Delta?

Yes, all four for Delta

Yes. This will also account for the people who will be going to 'Nam.
56 recall notices will be sent out to account for those who choose to bypass.

And if all 56 accept?

Nevermind, just saw the union email.

How many did ASA furlough?

Furloughed 136 in two waves.

Where are these airplanes coming from?

Who is ASA?

Do you guys mean Atlantic Southeast?;)

Good to hear for those recalled.

See y'all in class.

One manager's note says the recalls are accounting for Air Meekong while another note mentions that the recalls are for the new aircraft. Communications problems anyone?

4:5 a/c:crew ratio would = 40 pilots

Only 1 or 2 furloughed guys I heard got nam...

= 42??? maybe??? I dunno...

I am shocked that this CRJ-700 deal isn't announced as a 2 for 1 again.

Four new aircraft coming from Horizon flying for Delta beginning sometime in June. They will be configured with a first class cabin.

To all the furloughees returning: Welcome back! We missed you all.

I think I read in the memo that they will be getting the aircraft in June and then they have to go to the hangar to be changed into a 2 class layout online by late summer...

Summer ends 9-21

All 70's going through reconfig will be going to Dothan Alabama. PEMCO is the MRO that Delta chose for the contract. We(Comair ) already have two down there for reconfig. It's taking about a week to reconfigure the a/c.

Anyone had a visit from FedEx yet?

Congrats to those being recalled. :)

Are they still going to keep the HUD's and dual FMS on them from horizon or you guys have that already at ASA?

If they take out the HUD, make sure they take out that big hump just above the CA's head. Great place to bang your head.... over and over.

Good to hear some good for once. One question many probley have is how are you getting more a/c without giving up some? I thought DL was maxed out on scope.

The Skywest and Atlantic Southeast team are waiting for a few regionals to go out of the system. Once this happens they will take over the flying. The two that come to mind is Mesa and Comair, which is going to happen by the end of this year. Also Delta will lift some of the scope clause and allow more seats per aircraft in the next 3 to 5 years.

I know I'm included in the 56 that will be riceiving a recall notice. The company email stated that we would be getting information via FedEx Saturday (yesterday). My information is correct on ourasa and I was contacted by ALPA, no information packet has been delivered. Did anyone get theirs yet?

What DOH did the furloughs go back too?

1/14/08 i think

Most likely you will receive the letter on Tuesday. Since it's a holiday weekend, FedEx is not delivering.

The recall DOH goes back to early 2008. I can't give you a specific month because it depends on who accepts the recall.

Flamebait.................

Congrats to those recalled.

extreme flamebait haha

Gee,I wonder how many more labor under the immpression that it is up to Delta management whether or not scope is lifted.......:rolleyes:

Anyone want to hazard a guess at what the recall training will involve? Timeframe?

I can actually answer that. LOL. I spoke with the furlough Coordinator yesterday with a series of questions. Here is what I asked. Also if your one of the 56 that received a letter, don't forget the conferance call this afternoon. He may have better or more informative answers then this so make sure you listen in.

What are the class sizes going to be?They want to keep them around 10 a peice. Most have chosen the earliest class to start. Others they will work with on the remaining class dates.

How is the pay going to work?
Will we pick up where we left off with pay, or will we be receiving pay as if we never left? Meaning raises included. Pay starts as soon as class does and will be at what ever pay you left the company with at your guarantee rate. so if you left at first year pay, you come back at first year pay. If you had 3 months till a raise, then thats all you will have left till your next raise.

How long is the training?
What does it entail? Training length depends on Aircraft assignment and your previous assignment. If you were on the 200 and assigned to the 200, your training should involve a week of systems and then 4 sims. You were on a different airframe then what you recieve, then you will likely have an addtional ground training for differences and possibly a couple more sim sessions.

How soon will I be in CASS? To show up in CASS will take a couple of days due to all the paper work.

What can we expect as far as aircraft placement? The current pilot group will of course get first pick of A/C placement prior to the furlough's return. But that doesn't necessarily mean that there won't be any 700 positions available. It sounded like we will know what Aircraft will be available to bid on sometime early next week. From what I can tell everyone is to bid at once regardless what class you chose/were given. And of course its seniority based. Now he still may have a better answer on the conferance call.

Is there going to be a domicile bid as a result of us coming back? There could be. Again will not know until either the call or next week. We have to see what kind of movement will take place prior to our return. As a side note. There were only 15 FO's that wanted to be in IAD. There are 45 lines and 15 reserve positions.


Hope all this helps in answering any questions.

It doesn't look like too many FOs in IAD have put their bids in for ATL, there are currently 12 IAD FOs with bids in for ATL. There are 4 or 5 FOs in ATL with bids in for IAD. Going on that, I would guess that 10-15 of the furloughs coming back will go to IAD and the rest back to the 50 and 70 in ATL.

Everyone leave IAD, it's HORRIBLE ( then I can be # 1 hahahaha )

DONT BID IAD

Trips are horrible

Overnights are horrible

Airport is horrible

Its just horrible

DO NOT DO IT

TRUST ME

YOU CAN THANK ME LATER

Sounds like you are describing united express flying. Oh wait...

That's not how I read it in the contract... Here is what it says:

Section 23-A-6. A furloughed pilot, including a pilot on voluntary furlough, will
retain and accrue seniority while on furlough and will retain and accrue longevity while on furlough and receiving pay in lieu of notice.

Section 23-B-1. Recall
a. A pilot will be recalled in order of seniority. When a pilot is recalled, his longevity date will be adjusted forward by the amount of time spent on furlough.

Since all pay is based on longevity, according to what the contract says, if you worked for 2 years and then were on furlough for a year, you should come back with 3rd year pay and your pay increases will still be based off your original hire date.

Am I reading the contract wrong?

I'm fairly certain all furloughees received appropriate notice from the company and no one was placed on furlough and received pay in lieu of notice. Regardless... if anyone was, I don't believe they would have accrued more than a week or two of additional longevity.

That is true but what about Section 23 B 1 for recall:

"When a pilot is recalled, his longevity date will be adjusted forward by the amount of time spent on furlough."

I thought the "pay in Lieu" part was in the case that you were furloughed and you happened to hit your hire dated during the "pay in lieu" period, you will still get your pay raise during that period. But in Section 23 B 1, it states that when we come back, longevity will be adjusted forward.

You're right, they'll adjust longevity forward when you come back. Say you have DOH 11/19/07. Now you'll have a DOH and a longevity date, and that longevity date will be 11/19 + however much time you were on furlough (~9 mos). So your pay increases will now not be based on 11/19/07, but maybe 8/19/08 or whatever it pans out to.

I see some people talking about being part of the 56 on the list. Is it 42 or 56? Did I miss something?