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gtechpilot 06-14-2010 07:12 PM

Looks like they're sending out 76 letters to cover 33 slots. I expect the 16 of us from the September furlough will bypass again and I'm guessing they expect a higher rate of bypass among the February furloughs. Good luck guys!

JetPipeOverht 06-14-2010 08:48 PM

Why do you keep bypassing if you only want to be back here ? Or is it you only wish to be back when times are good ? I'm lost here...i've heard nothing but the desire from furloughees to be back on property and you ' just want to work again ' and then you bypass again and again ? How long do you think this will work before 1000's of others are interviewed and hired over you who will take the job tomorrow >? ( Just my .02, i'm very confused )

Bustin 06-14-2010 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by JetPipeOverht (Post 826729)
Why do you keep bypassing if you only want to be back here ? Or is it you only wish to be back when times are good ? I'm lost here...i've heard nothing but the desire from furloughees to be back on property and you ' just want to work again ' and then you bypass again and again ? How long do you think this will work before 1000's of others are interviewed and hired over you who will take the job tomorrow >? ( Just my .02, i'm very confused )

The one's you read "just want to work again" probably aren't bypassing. Those that are probably have decent jobs right now and are waiting as long as they can to snag as much QOL as possible when they get back. As long as they have someone junior to them on the furlough list they can still bypass. Once all of the recalls are called back they'll all have to either return or resign. Hopefully they all understand that they're losing longevity with each bypass. But with our pay rate structure I suppose that doesn't have much of an impact anyway...

atrdriver 06-15-2010 04:42 AM

You're right, longevity doesn't make a difference because of how the pay scale flattens out. It's all about QOL, and there won't be any for most of us if we were to take the recall.

That is likely why they didn't get all 42 pilots that they wanted last time, and that's likely why they sent out more than twice the number of letters as recalls this time. Anybody who has a somewhat decent paying job is going to stick with it until life at the airline isn't so hellish. I don't mean to sound bitter, but look at how they've been running it into the ground the past few months...

afterburn81 06-15-2010 06:18 AM

Yeah something tells me that reserves are going to be ridiculously busy from now on. I have yet to see them do this but there were 175 lines on the 700/900 and the last person to be awarded a line was 173 on the list. At least 6 people senior to the most junior line holder bid reserve. What happened to those other 8 lines? Not sure how that works.

Captain Tony 06-15-2010 09:44 AM

Anyone that accepts recall now will be cannon fodder for scheduling. But hey, it beats no job, I guess. I expect there will be a lot of bypasses.

surreal1221 06-15-2010 11:01 AM

If I get a notice, which it looks like I will, I'll gladly accept a recall.

Although, good for me - and significantly different than many of my furloughed brothers and sisters - is that I have a full time Air Force Reserve position that allows me to claim MIL Leave, so I can come back from recall and go straight to MIL leave and come back when I want to, so long as I keep filing MIL leave on each new set of orders.

About three months into this set, with the expectation to do another set of 6 month orders. So at least I'll - if I'm lucky and 10+ pilots bypass ahead of me - begin to build longevity again and come back in the spring, slide into a training class either by myself or another few people coming off of various leaves, and roll from there. . . perhaps with enough seniority to escape having to commute to IAD on reserve.

broncoflyer8912 06-15-2010 10:14 PM

I don't think whether you bypass to wait, or accept the recall are going to be on reserve regardless, a few might get a line in IAD with the mass exodus from there in this last bid award, but on a whole you're going to reserve regardless, I think that's just something you have to accept. I just missed the furlough, got displaced to IAD, and was commuting to IAD for reserve. Life pretty much sucked, and getting back to ATL just to sit reserve although doesn't seem like a big victory, is a massive victory for me. Just don't understand where you are getting these high expectations for yourself by bypassing, but good luck with that.

USMC3197 06-15-2010 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by broncoflyer8912 (Post 827251)
Just don't understand where you are getting these high expectations for yourself by bypassing, but good luck with that.

For many of them, they have something better on the side right now that may or may not be aviation related. A month more doing that would be a month less reserve in their lifetime and a month of a better QOL if they bypass.

jetguy 06-16-2010 04:04 AM

so how many total will be recalled? and total will still be on furlough now?


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