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Originally Posted by willwestwalk
(Post 846601)
"Pilots get paid too little because they accept too little."
Wrong. If that were true Spirit, JetBlue, Allegiant, and Hawaiian would not have gotten a raise. Why didn't the airline just say no and replace them? The regionals need to stand ground and it needs to happen now. Team up with the majors and demand tighter scope so there can be leverage for more money. Pay was low because everyone thought they were moving on. Well for many the regional level is a career. Pilots need to fight for proper pay right now. Bit your tongue, those carriers are in a little better position because they fly their own passengers not someone elses! |
Originally Posted by bozobigtop
(Post 848459)
Bit your tongue, those carriers are in a little better position because they fly their own passengers not someone elses!
Spirit, on the other hand, was completely and utterly crippled by their strike. They had no regional partners to rely on and couldn't set up charter contracts to fly struck work. Had they had contract lift already going they could in theory rely on them since it wouldn't be struck work but still get at least a portion of their passengers on their way. Regionals by definition get around the union's ability to raise wages by taking away the one thing the union had which was a monopoly on labor. |
Originally Posted by iPilot
(Post 848470)
Exactly. If a DCI carrier strikes Delta already set it up so most markets are served by multiple regionals and their mainline jets. Though other regionals can't pick up extra flying they can still serve a good portion of their customers through a strike and just operate on a limited basis.
Spirit, on the other hand, was completely and utterly crippled by their strike. They had no regional partners to rely on and couldn't set up charter contracts to fly struck work. Had they had contract lift already going they could in theory rely on them since it wouldn't be struck work but still get at least a portion of their passengers on their way. Regionals by definition get around the union's ability to raise wages by taking away the one thing the union had which was a monopoly on labor. |
Originally Posted by stoki
(Post 846669)
As mentioned above a huge airline like Republic, could, and should be the first.
A lot on the line if it happened there. Even when the next hiring boom begins at the legacies in a few years, there will be many more pilots competing for far fewer seats at big boy table. Some will simply not want to trade their 100,000 to 120,000 dollar a year job to start over as 35,000 dollar furlough fodder. |
Originally Posted by bozobigtop
(Post 848459)
Bit your tongue, those carriers are in a little better position because they fly their own passengers not someone elses!
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Originally Posted by SkyHighHobo
(Post 847963)
Of course they would. Its what they do there after they start the job thats important. You assume that the guy climbing out of the 25k f/o job into a 50K f/o job, or the 60k capt. job climbing into the 95K capt. job would sit there and twiddle their thumbs while collecting a paycheck. Or, at least the gist of that statement implies such......
Start ups will come along from time to time. They always have they always will. It's the Shiny Jet guys that need to. Ah, this is pointless...:p Hmm, I thought I pasted this with my original reply. http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/i...merica2010.jpg |
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