Agreed. Most XJT pilots are glad this thing is going through. This place isn't half of what it used to be. There's no reason this has to turn into a pis$ing match.

If you're going to recall the reps, you have to do it right. Showing up at the meeting and demanding a recall is not doing it right.

Well DOH isn't going to happen so forget that.

Second, you aren't buying anyone. ASA is buying XJT, you as a pilot aren't involved in the purchase. You'll be effected by the purchase, but you're not buying anyone.

Thirdly, if the scope clause ain't worth jack then why did Jerry back out last time? It is possible that a judge will side with XJT ALPAs interpretation. Never say never. You may find yourself eating crow.

The government won't LET you do DOH. :cool:

If you fight against it... you might have to learn about:

McCaskill-Bond

Try as you might, you're not going to staple if the lists merge. And if you fight hard enough to get it to arbitration, you might not like the results either...

so it seems like playing fair if the XJT guys have the scope clause in their contract work would be the best way to go...

It'd be real embarrassing to be a regional with labor strife a la US-Airways/America West

Tony,
You sound like management.

1) Management can afford to pay us a respectable wage. Dont buy into the propaganda.
2) I dont think you ever wanted this merger from the beginning. You and Slaphappy have been confrontational in every single thread so far.
3) always remember that you are managements puppit. They buy other companies and we fly the airplanes. \
4) A contract violation is a contract violation. What good is a contract if no one wants to uphold it. It is a negotiation and just to roll over on this issue and relinquish any bargaining power we might have is completely asinine.
5) Supporting a DOH integration is about as short sighted as you can get. Sure you and a small percentage might gain a few percentage points but you are collectively throwing your junior guys under the bus. XJT did a lot of hiring (80 pilots a month) from 04-07. In my example a % integration would mean i would move back 200 #'s and slide back 5 months doh. So sure you might want a DOH list but it is illegal, a horrible idea for 60-70% of your own pilot list, and is a perfect example of the selfish "i got mine" attitude that has plaqued our profession.

So please go ahead and try and recall your MEC because you wanted a DOH list! You will get laughed out of the room or lynched by the junior pilots.

Lets all just take a deep breath and see what our unions come up with. This COULD benefit everybody involved. We want one list across three companies or we want iron clad protections in our contract to prevent the whipshaw... it is that simple. As for the lifeboat comment, well it isnt much of a "lifeboat" if theres a guy plugging a hole threatening you with drowning.

Heres a question for the ASA guys:

What is ASA's company policy on outside flying? I fly charter on the side and make it work with my schedule. I have yet to run into legality conflicts or schedule issues but I am curious if anybody has any similar experiences.

Not allowed without permission from the Director of Operations is how I believe it reads. I had a friend here that asked them about it and was told no way, so he went with don't ask don't tell.

I'm not involved with it, but those that are are familiar with ALPA's C&BLs.

I am a junior guy at ASA. A DOH integration would drop me 7% and put me below every furlough except 2. Like others have said its probably illegal to do a DOH, but if it DID happen I believe, and I feel most other junior guys would as well, all hell would break loose at ASA from the junior guys revolting

[QUOTE=cencal83406;856212]The government won't LET you do DOH. :cool:

If you fight against it... you might have to learn

Learn what... Ask Eagle pilots about DOH!!! DOH is real and alive....