Skywest running new hire classes in Aug & Sep
 

Skywest has notified poolies of two EMB classes of 20 pilots each. One class in Aug and one in Sept.

I know there has been discussion on this in the past, but these classes are also being offered to United furloughees.

Ya think they should offer them to furloughed XJT pilots who will be future employees for SKYW. Good way to start off with the XJT employees JA.

that's because the word is ASA is going to take some of those furloughed guys and gals

Not so sure that's true, but we will find out on Monday.

To all furloughed United pilots,

We will be filling two “new hire” classes at SkyWest Airlines in accordance with LOA 03-22 “Job Opportunities for Furloughed United Pilots”. The first is scheduled to start on 8 September 2010 and has 20 positions available. The second is scheduled to start on 20 September 2010 and has 16 positions available. These are FO positions in the Brasilia (EMB120) at second year CRJ 700 pay. Positions for the 8 September class will be filled in seniority order based on a furloughed pilot’s preference indicated by their submitted FCOL Preference form on file as of 1200 CDT Tuesday, 17 August 2010. Positions for the 20 September class will be filled in seniority order based on a furloughed pilot’s preference indicated by their submitted FCOL Preference form on file as of 1200 CDT Tuesday, 24 August 2010. If you are interested in an opportunity with SkyWest flying the Brasilia (EMB120) and you have previously submitted an FCOL Preference form indicating a preference to work at SkyWest or “First Available”, there is no need to submit a new FCOL Preference form, unless you wish to change your preference or contact information. If you have NOT submitted an FCOL Preference form, logon to http://ual.alpa.org, click on the “Furlough” pull down, and then on “Jobs”, scroll down the Jobs page to get to the information about LOA 03-22, click on the link titled “Online Interactive FCOL Preference form” to submit the form electronically. Once submitted you will receive an e-mail confirmation at your e-mail on file with ALPA.

Please utilize the information available on the “Jobs” page to answer most of your questions concerning LOA 03-22 and the process. I will be posting information about SkyWest as it becomes available. Questions concerning this job offer received by e-mail or phone will be answered time permitting. If possible, discuss taking this job offer with your spouse or significant other, so if you are called with the offer you will have already made your decision.

Thanks for posting that, when did you get that email? The poolie email indicates 2 classes of 20, Aug. 30th and Sep. 13th. So your email is indicating different dates, which means one of two things: Either the Sep 8th/20th classes are in addition to the poolie classes, or the poolie class dates have been changed since the poolie email was sent (Aug 11th) and are being offered to UAL furloughees first....

And what is the text of LOA 03-22?

Inside scoop is that there might be two classes for UAL and two for poolies, so four classes total. Staffing would certainly support this now, and that's not counting whoever gets hired at DAL.

Great news. Do UAL furloughees have to surrender the UAL seniority number if they accept the Skywest position?

No, that's part of the deal arranged by UAL.

The word on the street is that SkyWest is going to be looking for around 1600 or so all together. Around 580 or so for the Mesa work which should be showing up between now and the end of Sep. The rest is for the Comair work but won't be until after the 1st of the year. I guess their contract states that if anything is sold the pilots go with the equipment, however (as I've been told) that contract ends at the end of this year. I'm only the messengers.......................

Say what you want about Skywest, but no other airline is doing anything like this (giving 1st year prop pilots 2nd year jet pay, almost twice as much money), while allowing them to keep their seniority number, to help them through a tough time. Skywest gained several points in my book.

Where did that little nuggets of info come from?

Are those 580 going to come from the street, or from Mesa?

This statement alone shows that you have no idea what you're talking about. Mesa was granted an extension on filing their POR until Oct. 21'st with the possibility of it being extended to Dec. 1'st. Until these dates nothing around Mesa is going to change as Mesa itself has the exclusive rights to the reorganization and operation of the company. So, care to shed some light on this legally impossible September date you speak of? :rolleyes:

United pays the difference between first and second year pay not Skywest....same deal at most United Express carriers.

What the heck is crj700 pay? We don't even have that. It's the Block Hour Override.

Slap is that you?

The above will not happen and is a total pipe dream. See BI/EAL!

SKW is not doing that. SKW pays the normal rate, UAL makes up the difference.

They are allowed to keep their UA number, but that's because somebody at UA alpa negotiated that.

Messenger from whom? These are both theoretically possible, but the CA thing is pretty unlikely.

Mesa could be dome as an asset transfer in BK with no labor recourse, but an attempt to do that to CA would result in endless lawsuits since it would clearly be same airplanes, same routes.

Even is the CA contract is up at year-end, guess what? We live under the RLA, which extends expired contracts indefinitely until a new one can be worked out. Unless CA alpa voluntarily gives up scope (hah!) an asset transfer ain't happening.

That's no guarantee...they got the extension pending a new contract with US. If DP announces mesa's termination and a new contract with SKW tomorrow, the creditors would scream and petition the court to stop letting mag pee away THEIR money. The injunction would be lifted at that point and mag would have to show a viable POR or liquidate. BK is not carte-blanche to blow off your creditors forever, even though OJ has predictably milked it for a long while.

Rick,

What about the fact that our contract doesn't say anything about fleet numbers? It is an LOA with a clear beginning and ending date. I would think an LOA isn't subeject to the same extensions as a contract.

I don' see what would hold back Delta from transferring say... 10 airframes a month to whomever they chose, until Comair is left with nothing?

I know and you know it would be the same airplanes on the same routes but it would be the same thing as when they transferred all of our other planes and didn't take any pilots?

I hope it's different than that, but I just don't see how the contract protects against it.

Thanks.

Could somebody answer a few questions, or direct me to the appropriate thread if there already is one:

What does Skywest pay during training?

When do you get medical coverage after starting class?

What are your pass privileges on Delta?

What are the junior bases for the 120?

How many hours a month do the average line holder fly on the 120?

How many days off for reserves?

Is there a commuting policy?

Where is training held on the 120?

I know I'm going to get some smart @$$ answers but if somebody would be kind enough to answer these, I'm trying to make an informed decision.

Thank You.

What does Skywest pay during training?

60 hrs a month at 1st yr pay $22hr

When do you get medical coverage after starting class?

90 days

What are your pass privileges on Delta?

Unlimited domestic, 6 international segments per year. Yearly fee that currently is capped at $200. Just the employee is $100 and I think its $50 for each qualified pass rider you add after that. Qualified = Parents, Spouse, Children.

SkyWest travel is pretty much immediate upon starting training (no wait if it's operated by SKW) Delta and United benefits kick in after beginning training. I think DAL is 15days wait and UAL is 30 days but it may be vice versa.

What are the junior bases for the 120?

Fresno.

How many hours a month do the average line holder fly on the 120?

I avg 90-95

How many days off for reserves?

10

Is there a commuting policy?

No

Where is training held on the 120?

Ground in SLC, FTD in Fresno, Sim in Long Beach

Hope this helps

Any domiciles other than FAT? Thanks.

UAL4LOW.. I'll give you some additional info that might help you.

We currently have 193 EMB FOs. If we start running RJ transition or EMB upgrade classes, well over 100 of those could move out of the position. Therefore, holding a line or getting the domicile of your choice could come quickly. You can change domiciles as often as they award transfers. Turn down the transfer - six month lock.

One year seat lock until you can transition to the RJ.

All of this dependent upon movement of course, of which we haven't had any in 2 1/2 years.

Also fat is the largest bro base and has the most lines and has the biggest potential to hold a line the quickest once there is movement.

As for a commuter from mco, it's not that bad to get to fat. Even during fog season and other high load times, it just requires more creative planning.

Do FAT EMB120 FO's still get DL benefits? Also, what happens after 6 international segments, do you pay yield fare?

Yes we still get dl benefits. I am not sure but I think that's right about the international travel.

Just curious for those ual furloughs do they get to use their ual seniority for non rev travel while at SkyWest?

Thanks for all the replies! This helps a lot.

I have just a few follow ups:

Do you pay for hotel during training?

Do you pay for uniforms?

What is the typical length (footprint) of training for the 120?

UAL furloughs already have travel from UAL, so I doubt they will use the UAL side, but they may utilize the Delta benefits, if it makes for an easier commute.

They pay for your hotel...

Portions of your uniform are paid for... you have to decide which jacket you want, and pay for that. (leather or traditional)

I'm not sure on the last one.

Is that double occupancy, or single?

how many people are in the skywest pool anyways?

By my count, 109, but that's not official

United furloughees have pass travel for ten years after the date of furlough and are treated on United and Express as if they were still employed.

I haven't worked at OO for a few years, but for me, initial was double occupancy, but you could pay half to get a single room.

For upgrade, it was a private room.



For me, 26 days, on which you'd add a week for indoctrination. Then line training, which could be the day after, or weeks after.

Double occupancy.

how many UAL furloughs are there?

any idea if hiring off the street will happen?

For everybody on this thread (not necessarily just Tony):

All true. Except for a new hire single room as I recall. I requested to pay for half and my request was denied. What can I say, I was 37 years old at the time and I have paid my dues living with room mates from back in my University and Law School years. So I rented a corporate apartment on my own dime for the duration of training. :)

For example if your new hire class has 20 FO's (assuming all men), Skywest will be paying for 10 double occupancy rooms. Period. They will not pay for 10.5 rooms while a person springs for the other .5 if a room for themself. Essentially, whatever the request, it MUST be cost neutral to Skywest.

Female pilots, on the other hand will be given a single room if there is an odd number of them in the class. Not all of them get a single, just the odd one out. Obviously for liability purposes, they will not make the odd female out and the odd male out room together.

If there is an odd number of males in class, for some reason I want to say they make one group of three stay in a room. If you are the third person in this case, they may or may not allow that person to pay for half of another room. It has been so long I just don't remember in this case.

What I do know is if a new hire makes a stink about their hotel situation, your name will come to the attention of the training department in NOT necessarily a good way.

The whole goal of your first year is to study hard, pass your training, and stay low on the "radar". Easy to do. Just do it.

ah nevermind