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Old 08-21-2010 | 08:20 AM
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Well, the hope is that we would have soon been 20+ airplanes but plans changed. I think their goal was to be able to do flying outside of the Frontier network. Either way I agree, we should have been F9 to begin with, but what's done is done.
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Old 08-21-2010 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ColdWhiskey
It's all spilt milk at this point. S.M. got the ship headed in the right direction. I still think he would have been better off to cut his loses with Lynx and just add the aircraft and employees to the F9 certificate. The aircraft and it's markets make a lot of sense. Having a whole separate airline with all of the duplicated functions and only 10 airplanes did not make sense. Don't get me wrong. I always have considered the Lynx employees to be top notch, and their DOT record speaks for that, but I have always also considered them to be Frontier employees. If B.B. does decide to keep them in some form, they deserve to be on the Frontier certificate.
Were there no future plans for growth at Lynx? I might have heard a rumor at one time they were slated to grow to over 30 aircraft. I have to be honest and say I can not remember for the life of me where I had heard it though. Could have been a FA
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Old 08-21-2010 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
Were there no future plans for growth at Lynx? I might have heard a rumor at one time they were slated to grow to over 30 aircraft. I have to be honest and say I can not remember for the life of me where I had heard it though. Could have been a FA
That was the idea, but things got expensive I guess.
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Old 08-21-2010 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ColdWhiskey
It's all spilt milk at this point. S.M. got the ship headed in the right direction. I still think he would have been better off to cut his loses with Lynx and just add the aircraft and employees to the F9 certificate. The aircraft and it's markets make a lot of sense. Having a whole separate airline with all of the duplicated functions and only 10 airplanes did not make sense. Don't get me wrong. I always have considered the Lynx employees to be top notch, and their DOT record speaks for that, but I have always also considered them to be Frontier employees. If B.B. does decide to keep them in some form, they deserve to be on the Frontier certificate.
I agree completely.

Remember though that part of the reason Lynx was created was to get fee for departure contracts for other airlines... of course with the Ch 11 and the recession nobody signed up. If we could have had diversified the revenue stream with a long term contract our situation would be different right now.
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Old 08-21-2010 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
Were there no future plans for growth at Lynx? I might have heard a rumor at one time they were slated to grow to over 30 aircraft. I have to be honest and say I can not remember for the life of me where I had heard it though. Could have been a FA
10 orders with 10 options. Fleet plan target was 35 planes in 3 years.
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Old 08-26-2010 | 08:35 AM
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Getting the Lynx certificate was a mess. However, RAH had there own disaster getting the Republic certificate up and running. They had a good portion of it approved in Louisville and then upped and moved everything to Indianapolis, where they virtually had to start over at the insistence of the Indy FSDO. This delayed the certificate by months, costing a lot of money. RAH had to put 170's on the CHQ certificate causing penalties to AMR and APA.
Of course prior to that, they were also gloating on the proposed Ascent Air, which they were trying for with the purchase of the ACA certificate. Too bad Mesa outbid them for the certificate and all assets at the last minute. That went down in flames.
Is there a theme here?
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Old 08-31-2010 | 03:21 PM
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So has training of Republic pilots on the Q-400 started yet?
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Old 08-31-2010 | 04:16 PM
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Lynx guys will be transitioned over to Republic and continue flying the Qs. The IBT has not said anything in regard to this. Im assuming the company is blatantly breaking the RAH contract yet again. I have no doubt an LOA could be agreed to, but the company wouldn't want to give anything in return. Yet another greivance to be filed.
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Old 09-01-2010 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy23
Lynx guys will be transitioned over to Republic and continue flying the Qs. The IBT has not said anything in regard to this. Im assuming the company is blatantly breaking the RAH contract yet again. I have no doubt an LOA could be agreed to, but the company wouldn't want to give anything in return. Yet another greivance to be filed.
We never win grievances so why would the company agree to an LOA when they can just as easily get something for nothing and anger their pilot group even more?
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Old 09-01-2010 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Flying Illini
We never win grievances so why would the company agree to an LOA when they can just as easily get something for nothing and anger their pilot group even more?
Wouldn't this be a pretty cut and dry violation of the contract?
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