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Originally Posted by minimwage4 (Post 870510)

Eagle will not hire anyone if they have failed a check ride that's on the PRIA meaning the last 5 years. Pure and simple. They can afford to be picky.

100% incorrect

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Originally Posted by andy171773 (Post 870325)

Pretty much everyone i've talked to with 2000+ hours are being turned down.

This is not a true statement. Here's a list of total flight time from the bottom few guys in DFW:

9585
1349
1760
2493
1703
1385
2185

IF 141 stage check failures become reportable, then the schools will just figure out a way around failing so many students. Maybe they would call some "incomplete", or send the student up for a mock stage check with a check airman which could, at the discretion of the check airman, be converted to an actual stage check depending on the student's performance (test in lieu of training).

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Originally Posted by minimwage4 (Post 870562)

:rolleyes: What if the first one was not trying and the second one was just bad luck?? You're telling us that a 2000 hour single PIC cargo guy with one or two primary failures is less experienced than the CFI with no failures?

Look, it's not even about good pilot, bad pilot. The point is, the airlines can do whatever they like. But most places are not very stringent on failures depending on your circumstance.

As it was mentioned before, the FAA has come down hard on the airlines. Now they actually DO CHECK your background by requesting things like complete records or airman from the FAA as well as the PRIA. It's not the end of the world if you have an unclean record. Just move on.

Great post a failure is a failure anyone thats been in this industry for a while knows it happens some people pass that should'nt some people fail and maybe they should've passed. Thats why experince counts. I would take a guy/gal that had two failures with a few years at cape air/Island air over a 500hr no failures, severe clear, wonder pilot any day. The people that did real flying in real wx is the person I want.

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Originally Posted by XForces (Post 870721)

100% incorrect

That's kind of weird since that's what HR told everyone.

i agree that with the times changing here in the next year or two.... 1-2 checkride busts won't be a problem. I busted my CFI initial with the feds and then 3 days later greased it... a good learning process that i don't really regret.

If eagle doesn't want me because of some piece of paper that does NOT show what kind of pilot i really am... screw em, i don't want to fly for them anyways

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Originally Posted by CaptainTeezy (Post 870303)

Hey guys I have read that Colgan won't interview you if you have more than 2 checkride failures, and American Eagle will kick you out of an interview if they find out you have ever failed a checkride.

Is there any truth to this? That you could be invited to an interview and then just sent home simply because you failed a few check rides back in your training days?

Some advise..

I went through all my training through CFII/MEI, got my ATP and a type rating in the ATR and went on to get 5 other PIC type ratings including A320 and MD11, as well as all the recurrent training and line checks in 6500 hours of flying and I've only ever failed my commercial single engine (short field landing) in a C-152 when I had 250 hours or so.. In this environment, with the glut of pilots looking for work, you need to make sure you don't fail a 3rd... or just cut your losses and seek other career options.

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Originally Posted by Keith Stone (Post 870681)

most "failed" 141 rides never show up as a "failure" as they usually get converted into a "lesson" in order to preserve the the integrity of EA/ACR.

Any half-way clued interviewer can spot a failed 141 checkride in your logbook. He can't prove it, but he doesn't really need to.

So if I am understanding this...The checkride policy only applys to what is in the PRIA?

Does the PRIA include GA/61/141 checkrides???

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Originally Posted by CaptainTeezy (Post 870875)

So if I am understanding this...The checkride policy only applys to what is in the PRIA?

Does the PRIA include GA/61/141 checkrides???

Not exactly, there are two parts to a pria, the first one is to check if you really are a pilot and if you have any problems with the FAA. The second part which most airlines do not go through the trouble of checking is your airman report as far as previous failures. Now they are checking this second part which includes every FAA ride you've ever taken, including pt121 rides that go back to the FAA.