I know where you are coming from with this question, which is very valid.

I believe it's more a show of support for the XJ MEC for being able to get something done if there is a chance, not so much getting the impossible from an impossible situation.

As opposed to some guys on here totally trashing your MEC during a critical negotiation.

But the MEC doesn't decide if we get a ta. In fact they really have nothing to do with it. Its the negotiators that do it at the direction of the MEC from what the LECs tell them. And after they get done with it the LECs will vote on whether the TA goes to the pilot vote. There are several reasons why people are mad at our MEC but I dont think anyone is really mad at our MEC for not getting us a TA. Its more of a leadership thing not a "your not making the company give us what we want" thing.

I know, it's a show of support though during this critical time.

This situation is complex becuase Mesaba has the least to gain in this contract becuase of where they are in relation to our contracts so I would feel that the three airlines need to view this from this angle:
Pinnacle - potential to have very good gains compared to their current book - if it doesnt pass they go back to section 6 negotiations on ice with the NMB but probably will be offered something similiar to what is in the JCBA which will pass.
Colgan - potential for huge gains especially in pay in work rules with a successful JCBA - If it doesnt pass the punishment will continue until some sort of merger happens with mesaba
Mesaba - least to gain with the JCBA because this is NOT section 6 negotiations. This is an initial joint contract. I can see where mesaba would feel like they are not gaining much where colgan and pinnacle would be however and this is a big however - they have the most to lose if the TA does not happen. Saabs are going away and until there is some sort of integration that leaves mesaba fat on pilots which i hope all the mec's especially mesaba's remember this.

Sitting here whining about it sure as hell isnt gonna get us a TA. So the alternative seems like a good idea.

Whats the alternative?

I disagree..without XJ this contract goes no where, during our conference call today almost everything that has been TA'd was directly from the XJ contract, not 9E's last TA...every group brings something to the table, some more than others...

drink beer and forget about all this...;)

What are you implying? We should be thankful to the 9E pilots and give up seniority in the SLI for it? That's ridiculous. We could turn around and say without us, you would still be on ICE, and 9Es MEC should remember that.

How about instead, we all bring good and bad things into this merger. We should consider each other as equals and integrate as such. That's all the XJ guys want.

Did you read his entire post or did you just decide to read that part and nothing else? And what do you mean be thankful to the 9e pilots. We didn't buy mesaba pinnacle bought mesaba. And we are still on ice. All this is just a stall tactic. So we could technically say thanks for dragging out us being on ice for another 3 months and in the end we go back to section 6 without having worked on our contract the entire time.

I am implying that I dont want to see any more of your pilots on the street.