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TonyWilliams 11-03-2010 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 892439)
You mean it "could" cruise faster. I've never had a -200 above .78 in level flight. And anything above ISA+0 it's .74 or less. The -700 will do .82 (limited to .83 in RVSM) and the -900 will do .85 (limited to .82 in RVSM) in level flight at any ISA.

Not bragging, just making sure the facts are straight.


It's obvious that the larger, newer planes are more capable. Nobody disputes that. But the facts are that a -200 can/could go to M.84/.85.

What could there possibly be to "brag" about?

hoserpilot 11-03-2010 02:33 PM

When I was at Skywest I thought my flight benefits were great. I had pass privileges on both United and Delta. The increased flight options more than made up for lower non-rev priority. The travel department was more active in getting discounts for employees. I didn't expect to bump a mainline employee....ever. Regional employees are just contract employees for a major. Any at-risk self branded flying should allow the regional employees to have a higher priority on their own metal though.

jayray2 11-03-2010 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 895535)
When I was at Skywest I thought my flight benefits were great. I had pass privileges on both United and Delta. The increased flight options more than made up for lower non-rev priority. The travel department was more active in getting discounts for employees. I didn't expect to bump a mainline employee....ever. Regional employees are just contract employees for a major. Any at-risk self branded flying should allow the regional employees to have a higher priority on their own metal though.

Aren't regional people flying on their own flights at a higher priority currently than mainline people regardless of flying directly as a contract carrier for mainline? On a side note, I don't think anyone on here was asking for a higher priority for the regionals. Just equal benefits for all regional carriers.

Qotsaautopilot 11-03-2010 09:30 PM

I'm asking for higher priority. When the people get on my plane they are getting on Continental flight xxxx. Why is that I shouldnt have equal nonrev benefits? And for that matter pay, contract, and seniority at said airline. The second you agree that you shouldnt have the same board priority as a mainline employee is the second you agree that you are not as important as them. When you get left behind because the mainline ramper that just got hired last week beat you on you are saying that he is more important than you. I would say that you or I have much more invested in that mainline carrier than said ramper. WAKE UP!

Wingnutdal 11-04-2010 03:50 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 895717)
I'm asking for higher priority. When the people get on my plane they are getting on Continental flight xxxx. Why is that I shouldnt have equal nonrev benefits? And for that matter pay, contract, and seniority at said airline. The second you agree that you shouldnt have the same board priority as a mainline employee is the second you agree that you are not as important as them. When you get left behind because the mainline ramper that just got hired last week beat you on you are saying that he is more important than you. I would say that you or I have much more invested in that mainline carrier than said ramper. WAKE UP!

You are flying Continental passengers, but who signs your paycheck. That is the crux of the problem, that this ramper is employed by Continental Airlines, and you work for ExpressJet Airlines.

As for the pay, contract and seniority at said airline, I just don't see that happening. Unless of course the mainline carrier starts taking back scope from the top down, which would open up jobs at said carrier. When you filled out your application it did say ExpressJet, and not Continental, right?

sailingfun 11-04-2010 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 895717)
I'm asking for higher priority. When the people get on my plane they are getting on Continental flight xxxx. Why is that I shouldnt have equal nonrev benefits? And for that matter pay, contract, and seniority at said airline. The second you agree that you shouldnt have the same board priority as a mainline employee is the second you agree that you are not as important as them. When you get left behind because the mainline ramper that just got hired last week beat you on you are saying that he is more important than you. I would say that you or I have much more invested in that mainline carrier than said ramper. WAKE UP!

Why did you not just apply to CAL in the first place?

TeddyKGB 11-04-2010 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 895717)
I'm asking for higher priority. When the people get on my plane they are getting on Continental flight xxxx. Why is that I shouldnt have equal nonrev benefits? And for that matter pay, contract, and seniority at said airline. The second you agree that you shouldnt have the same board priority as a mainline employee is the second you agree that you are not as important as them. When you get left behind because the mainline ramper that just got hired last week beat you on you are saying that he is more important than you. I would say that you or I have much more invested in that mainline carrier than said ramper. WAKE UP!

Dream on. Wont ever happen. You sure seem awfully entitled. Check your arrogance and entitlements at the home next time and deal witht the fact that mainline employees will always get on ahead of you. Thats the way it's always been, always will be and always should be. If you don't like it than buy a ticket or drive :eek:

BlueMoon 11-04-2010 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 895717)
I'm asking for higher priority. When the people get on my plane they are getting on Continental flight xxxx. Why is that I shouldnt have equal nonrev benefits? And for that matter pay, contract, and seniority at said airline. The second you agree that you shouldnt have the same board priority as a mainline employee is the second you agree that you are not as important as them. When you get left behind because the mainline ramper that just got hired last week beat you on you are saying that he is more important than you. I would say that you or I have much more invested in that mainline carrier than said ramper. WAKE UP!

Your not any more important than that ramper.

Plus you have access to the cockpit jumpseat, something almost all other employees don't

Captain Tony 11-04-2010 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 895773)
Why did you not just apply to CAL in the first place?

Maybe he couldn't afford to let his kids go without health insurance for the first 6 months.

Captain Tony 11-04-2010 09:30 AM

I think everyone who flies passengers for a brand should have equal pass benefits on that brand, based on date of hire.


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